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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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aether22

Quote from: professor on August 06, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
Dear Dr. Stiffler
I am sorry you have taken offense to my opinion I am 66Years of age I have started Ham Radio in the 50's in another country and relicensed here in Canada. I worked in Electronics all my life troubleshooting and having worked for CGE  Sylvania and many others  I am maybe not as smart as you appear to be, but I am no Dummy.
I noticed that you had similar emotional outbursts with other members,its a shame that Mankind can not understand each other.
I praised you and your Circuit for what it is .What more do you want.Total obedience? If we can not share our thoughts and experiences what is the sense being here? God may smile upon you.
Others have taken my comment as it was meant. I was not badmouthing anyone and I am disturbed about the Fact that I have to go on a defensive.Where is your professionalism?I also live in the Pacific Northwest.
K4zep nice you took no offence as you surely understood what I had meant having worked with RF yourself.
I will look at your other Video that I promise.
There is no need to delete as I will be the wiser one I will stay in another section of this Forum Dr. Stiffler you can have it all
By the way Dr Stiffler what is your Call Sign?
Professor

 

Professor, 2 things.

First is that there are plenty of people who will pick things to death, many seem quite f'd up and they are only here to tear down, others are merely unreasonably skeptical, and some actually give every appearance of being paid for their disinfo.

And so comments such as yours especially when they don't seem to be considering all the evidence are looked on as 'just another a**hole'.
Being nice and saying you are into this or that does not remove that suspicion or change how sick people are of unending re-hashing of stuff that was long ago disproven.

Secondly no one is perfect, the history of discoveries of this type are riddled with failures of the inventor (in almost every imaginable way), this is both because it takes someone who is quite independent and unconventional to come up with these discoveries and stick their neck out over it, and the fact that too much is expected of the discoverer of such a technology (due to government, companies and general public not supporting it the inventor must be a jack (or master) of all trades), and few people can do it all, even when they can (and Stiffler is close to that, who else has built and sold working prototypes!) the stress of doing it all and fighting off attacks from 'friendly' to 'deranged' skeptics alike can be a tad much, so give the Doc a break.

There is at least one thing that should not be doubted by any sane and informed person about Stifflers tech. (and this area in general)
First it is not conventional, and secondly has huge positive potential. (only until now it has not been clear how to enhance a SEC sufficiently)

You are right though, we humans do need to get along better but you can't poke a bear in the face with a stick and tell it to 'chill' either. (and maybe you didn't mean to but that's what you did)


?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

AbbaRue

I have one problem with building this device:
From a common electronics point of view what we have here is a simple inverter circuit.
Winding 9 turns around an AM antenna that has say 99 turns will step up the voltage 11x.
I have played with many step up transformers, and got them to light up fluor. lamps.
I did that kind of stuff back in the 1970's, using an ignition coil and a 6 volt transformer.
I used to dazzle my friends by being able to hold the tube in my hand and have it light up.
That was right after the first star wars came out at the movies. 

Anyway my problem is, how can I know that I have the Dr. Stiffler effect and not the simple step up
transformer effect I've been playing with for over 30 years?
The Dr. stated that the core material is very important, and I have no way of knowing if I have the right core.
I can be sure of every other aspect of this circuit but this one all important point.
There must be something I can check for to know for sure I have the circuit working HIS way.

The one I have built right now shows an almost perfect sine wave on the oscilloscope.
And my frequency counter is measureing about  5.8 MHz.

aether22

One thing I do want to say though is how true the follow statement from 'Prof' is:

     "Its a shame that Mankind can not understand each other."

It is something easy to see on the internet, besides a true mixed audiance you get anonymous people who just like to upset people because they can.
They are a huge problem but then the 'immune system' created by supporters who wish to protect the person or entity under attack often are proactive and energetic in their defense which creates some compartively friendly fire. (and then defense back the other way)
Then you have different skills, knowledge/training, personality and different tools people use and you end up with a bit of a mess if people aren't willing to go a bit easy which is not always easy when you are passionate about things.

Still normally harmony wins out but it does take effort sometimes to see other peoples point of view if it's not something you are used to doing.

I think every attempt should be made not to flame any possible innocent and give the benifit of the doubt so long as it exists, and I know not everyone will even agree with that but generally disharmony and rumors and sides and the like don't help and you can get 2 good people who due to poor communication are working not in co-operation but against each other, this is not good since if there is one thing that keeps this technology from getting a foothold it is lack of unity, unity is the power that companies gain by handing people money but this field can't do that and so must find unity by better communication and working together since none is paid. (and most making money from it have their motives peverted by the money)

Luckily these differences are the answer because it is indeed almost impossible to be good at many totally different disciplins and even if that were not so there is still too much to do.
But look at the benefit brought about be cooperation? Look what a party trick turned into? Look what my radiant electron observation became (Seemingly Stifflers greatest OU results yet in the optical coherance experiments) and the carbon has been proven useful in the SEC also.


Incidentally I have found the MBTI to be both fascinatingly accurate for myself and many others, we really are built differently, you may gain insight into someone if you can find their type.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Quote from: AbbaRue on August 07, 2008, 02:19:11 AM
I have one problem with building this device:
From a common electronics point of view what we have here is a simple inverter circuit.
Winding 9 turns around an AM antenna that has say 99 turns will step up the voltage 11x.
I have played with many step up transformers, and got them to light up fluor. lamps.
I did that kind of stuff back in the 1970's, using an ignition coil and a 6 volt transformer.
I used to dazzle my friends by being able to hold the tube in my hand and have it light up.
That was right after the first star wars came out at the movies. 

Anyway my problem is, how can I know that I have the Dr. Stiffler effect and not the simple step up
transformer effect I've been playing with for over 30 years?
The Dr. stated that the core material is very important, and I have no way of knowing if I have the right core.
I can be sure of every other aspect of this circuit but this one all important point.
There must be something I can check for to know for sure I have the circuit working HIS way.

The one I have built right now shows an almost perfect sine wave on the oscilloscope.
And my frequency counter is measureing about  5.8 MHz.


Good question perhaps.
One answer and this is based somewhat more on what he reported over a year and a half ago, I have not followed it much from then till recently because I was not sure if the current SEC was the same or not as what was happening then. (he didn't mention the same effects and it seemed easier to get and he didn't mention anything so...)

One answer would be to see if there is (and I hope this is not anything he told me in confidence) a return pulse, it's a second energy spike after the input which is hard to account for.

Another is to have a sensor coil and have it parallel to the main inductor (which is vertical in the current SEC obviously) and see if it has the uniform induced voltage until the drop-off which occurs at about a meter.

Another would be to make a simple AV Plug and see if it lights or powers a standard AV plug compatible load, this is however dependant of Stiffler being right that a normal electrical signal input into an AV plug will produce next to zero output, Stiffler claims you need a multi freq waveform to get a plug to work. (the implication that anything creating energy in the plug is disrupting the ______ )

The new experiments with the water thingimyjig would be a nice option and if you can get the fluros to light and if you can get the field to grow and if you can find the input current to decrease when adding further fluros then functional SEC or not you have something which is anomlious.

However you said your SEC lights up brighter when you turn an isolation transformer on and I think you said it was powered by a battery? (I could be wrong) If so then that's pretty anomlious since battery operated circuits don't jump in power obviously most of the time based in distant electrical devices.

Look for cooling of the transistor if you can tune for it.

Also I sent you a suggestion privately you could try that. (pretty predictible as it's the same suggestion I've been making publically)

I would note that it is maybe possible that you can with less effiency create a current which is compatible with that of SEC output, If you bought your SEC from Stiffler then chances are it works, I may however wish to consult this list myself once I get one built. (which is looking more likely)

Of course Stiffler may have a far better answer! (though I think he's decently busy atm)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

AbbaRue

Just for reference here is Naudin's replication of what we have here:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep012.htm

Only he used a 555 timer and didn't try splitting water with it, at least I don't think he did.
Also he is using the brute force of the ignition coil, whereas this circuit gains the energy from elsewhere.