Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[spinner]

BEN @all   I know that this sec has much potential. I also know that it will make hydrogen. Currently to make 1  kg of hydrogen using existing tech it takes 80kwh and 2 litres of water The docs sec cell makes this look silly This is what I will be /am doing' HHO'  Chet PS I know there are losses in the production of HHO this just shows how amazing the docs sec really is

This is nonsense. Please, check facts wrt. HH/O "from water" production. (80 kwh for a 1kg of H2? A kg of H2 from 2l of water? LOL)

It would be fair if similar claims would be equipped with "this is IMO" notice. Otherwise, someone could take it as a fact...

[ramset]

Spinner your such a friendly fellow  DESIGN NEWS [accelerating engineering innovation] 8-11-08  vol 63 page  52
QUOTE' At the White Plains  NY Shell  electrolyser Plant requires 80000 watt hrs and 2L of water to produce 1kg of hydrogen which equals 1 gal of gasoline in energy density END QUOTE
any more questions ?
Chet
SPINNER OH YES I FORGOT YOUR ONE OF THE GUYS THAT THOUGHT THE DOCS SEC WORTHLESS AND COULDN"T RESIST TELLING HIM SO      BIG HUGS AND KISSES FOR YOU
SPINNER I SEE YOU LIKE TO LAUGH A LOT. WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS , I DON"T FIND YOU VERY FUNNY

[aether22]

Very happy to see the Telos/Quadra/Whatever info up there again.

It is clearly related to Morton & Podkletnov.

As for the hydrogen thing, well if it were Tritium water then 2L would have about 1.2KG of heavy hydrogen.
But mostly lightwater would have only 400g of H in it. (ignoring electron mass and differences between proton and neutron mass)
The 1KG probably is the total weight of the gas released from 2KG of water meaning half is wasted somehow (unless they failed to account for boyancy)

So I hate to agree with Spinner as he is just a piece of slime IMO, in this case he is right.

[pcon33]

Hi  nubie here 

   spent  time reading through many of the past posts...wow lots of info...   on the sec...  i had some time today to wire up a protoboard with the thompson oscillator.... i used the circuit from creatorguys web page. Nice page and very informative....

also used the Avramenko's plug with the neon bulb.... (see attached pic) ...found some information on the plug here

http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov1.htm

took some tweaking to get it to oscillate and its still a bit touchie.... but i got it to work ok.... i thinnk part of the reason the circuit is touchie is i used a mje3439 npn  transistor instead of the recommended mpsa06.... the mje is a higher power part and likely has larger parasitic capacitance so could only get it up to  4.5mhz.... going to try to go higher when the mpsa06 parts show up.... ...Thinking on the Avramenko's plug circuit it reminds one of the fractionalization effect that tesla was said to have achieved with his mag biased spark gaps.... in teslas case the magnets performed the diode effect.... whereas the two diodes in the Avramenko's plug likely achieve the unidirectional pulse current associated with fractionalization effect....the neon is analogus to the spark gap only it flashes over at 80volts or so... the next thing tesla was having trouble with once he had extracted the either current from the electron current was that pure either current would sublime most solids i.e. gasify most substances... as you all know he finally ended up using carbon because it stood up to the either current better than most other elements....the other thing tesla did to purify the either stream was to pump nitrogen into the spark gap because it was a good electron absorber.... got most of this info reading the first chapter of "secrets of cold world technologies" so been doing this experiment because I thought it might verify some of the theory in the book.....  going to try the circuit again when i get the mpsa06s.....   i attached a pic of my breadboard circuit to this email but i couldnt get the preview feature to work so not sure if the pic made it to the board.....   anyway... great thread....

Best Regards

Ed....

[ramset]

ED Thanks for sharing Dr Stiffler has been working several decades [maybe more]  on this sec and other related projects He has a VERY BIG!!!! problem with steering/comparing his findings into a TESLA thread .I don't know if he will return to this venue ?life is way to short to spend saying the same things over and over again .He is on to something VERY!! unique that  is a result of HIS hard work .I for one hope he can comment some time on how to steer the sec to do what his vid does [continuous burn hydrogen at AMAZING efficiency with cell remaining at ambient temps]
Chet