Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrZLowe7]

Just to revise my comment about the flashing of the LED:
I have just remembered that from experimenting with the PIC chip that switching and LED on and off 1000's of times a second just produces a very dimly lit LED.
So putting a scope across the LEDs and looking at the value of series resistor it may be possible to calculate output power.
I suppose the load is odd in that the current will only start flow once the voltage exceeds say 2V per LED (or there abouts).
If nothing else this will make an excellent circuit for a bycle light or work lamp, camping lamp etc.

Regards
Rob

Just something to try. Power your LED through a diode this will cause some more voltage drop but still may work. And place a capacitor from the diode connection at the LED to ground. Try different values if you have them 10uf or so. If you have a very large value it may take a while before the capacitor becomes fully charged and the LED begins to glow even 10uf may take a little while. This should brighten them up a little maybe and reduce ripple so you make tests.
Got to go now for the day I have to work some.

[MeggerMan]

Hi Zachary,

Just something to try. Power your LED through a diode this will cause some more voltage drop but still may work. And place a capacitor from the diode connection at the LED to ground. Try different values if you have them 10uf or so. If you have a very large value it may take a while before the capacitor becomes fully charged and the LED begins to glow even 10uf may take a little while. This should brighten them up a little maybe and reduce ripple so you make tests.

This would be the obvious answer but I think that adding a capacitor will unbalance the circuit and certainly load the primary at a different phase angle/position.
Perhaps Dr Stiffler has already tried this and found that it killed the output.
I want to have a go at this circuit and see what output I can get, I have most of the components - low power mosfets, some diodes, 13000mcd white LEDs etc. I do not have a big choice of inductors but what I can try is winding a coil onto a huge toroidal core.
T650-52
http://www.micrometals.com/pcparts/torcore7.html

Mount it all on this board:

Regards
Rob

[dean_mcgowan]

No .. its between him and all of us.. please try and remember this is a public forum and that he has offered his contribution to it as have you as have I.

Treating Dr Stiffler like some coy child is .. well .. you know how it is.

Regards,

Dean

@dean
Since the beginning of this year you have posted 10 messages. 6 of them in this thread and not one of the in the spirit of co-operation. I believe I am beginning to understand how people like Bob Boyce or Bedini feel like.

AM

Are you referring to my comments made to the other brats that were diluting this forum with their hogwash ?

They scurried off soon enough too .. i really dont mind genuine efforts even if they are misguided though this is honestly somthing else. Is it just me who can see it ?

I promise i will say no more on this issue Stefan ... i respect this is your forum. Hope to contribute something more positive in the future.

Regards,

Dean

[amigo]

I really do not see what's everyone's obsession with O/U at all. The way I see it is that one day (I hope soon in our future) we'll have a black box that you would plug your devices in and you'd have power. This box will self-regulate and adjust to power requirements of the devices connected. How that box works and what's inside it will totally be irrelevant to 99% of the people on this planet, as it should.

No doubt there will be people even then who would find the "hair in the egg" with this black box, and question its operation, but that's just natural human behaviour. Bottom line is who cares, if it works and provides us with clean and sufficient/replacement power to existing sources, it is something we do not have right now and badly need.

Yet, none of the above really matters at all and most of you fail to step back and look at the pieces of the "big picture". I do not say I know the "big picture" but from what little I could piece together over the years, the implications of having a black box providing power go beyond quarreling electronics enthusiasts and into political, economical and social interests, aspects and areas of our lives. Matter a fact they begin there, the technological part is the least of our problems and worries, and if we are to believe those few "insiders", the technology to achieve what we seek has been around for at least 50 if not 100 years.

Problem is that when you have a black box power your devices you become an individual, which in this context means a detached entity from the rest of the collective. You have partially went "off the grid" and are one step closer to truly being free from the burdens in life. And now I'll stop here and let you reflect on this because its implications are far reaching, just think about it...

[zaydana]

I haven't received my coils yet, so I can't run this experiment myself yet, but if somebody can run it, it could possibly give us some hard evidence that the circuit is drawing in energy from the environment. Its entirely possible Dr. Stiffler or somebody else has already run this experiment, but until everybody (and I mean everybody, not just one side of this argument) gives some experimental proof of OU, this thread is just going to be a collection of opinions, and rather hostile ones at that.

What needs to be done is to measure:
1. The power being consumed Dr. Stiffler's driver circuit, at the signal generator, and the brightness of the LEDs it is powering
2. The power consumed by the same LEDs (at the same brightness) when powered directly by the signal generator.

Note: The waveform being produced by the signal generator for 2 must be exactly the same as the waveform produced by the driver circuit in 1. As such, the signal generator may need to be adjusted between 1 and 2. This is because the efficiency of the actual LEDs may be different when driven by specific signals (as discussed by some people already).

Also, make sure when measuring the power consumed by the driver circuit or the plain LEDs that you account for the fact that it is AC power you are dealing with - you probably don't just want to stick a multimeter over it.

If it takes more power to drive the LEDs to the same brightness without the driver circuit, then obviously the driver circuit is bringing energy into the system from somewhere. If not, then we haven't necessarily disproved it, we just haven't proved it.

If we find that there *is* extra energy coming into the system, another interesting experiment to run would be to measure the difference in power over the actual LEDs at the same brightness. If we are dealing with cold electricity, then from what I have read, you will likely not see any difference on your instruments in the amount of power the LEDs are consuming - thus why you must measure the actual driver circuit's input.

@Dr. Stiffler:
Please don't take offence at this post; personally, I am of the opinion that you are actually onto something. While your circuit must bear some resemblance to existing RF stuff for so many people to point it out, the other things you've posted such as your ground-only circuit and the SEC stuff show that RF can't be the whole story. I simply want to put this experiment out there, as I think a bit of hard experimental evidence it would clear up a lot of the non-constructive name-calling this thread has going on at the moment.