Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[hartiberlin]

@Amigo,
well done,
but how much power is gointo into the circuit ?
What is the input power without the LEDs and with the LEDs ?
Many thanks.

[amigo]

Unfortunately I must report that the effects present on the aluminium backed board are not there on plain vanilla one.

The neon bulb does not light on the white vanilla board and so there are no HV effects or anything of that kind. That circuit seems to operate on ~2.06MHz here, while the one with the aluminium board half of that frequency (~1.09MHz).

Not sure what to think of it now, though I am not interested in measuring any kind of gains or losses because of these occurrences and because of what I wrote above in my previous post.

I only have one core at the moment (still waiting for the shipment to arrive) so doing side-by-side testing is impossible.

[hartiberlin]

Unfortunately I must report that the effects present on the aluminium backed board are not there on plain vanilla one.

Many thanks for confirming this.
So we know now, that we really need an alu backplate for the real effects
to happen.
No wonder I did not get the same effects as Dr.Stiffler.

As I said, the stray capacitance couplings plays a major role at these
frequencies in these circuits.

[amigo]

I'm not sure why is everyone obsessing with measuring things and calculating numbers. My stance is clear, as in my previous post, and only hoptoad seems to understand what I'm saying.

@EMdevices
This is the "Thomas" oscillator from Dr.Stiffler's page, I have just re-created it in effort to confirm or dispute the claim.

@hartiberlin
I think Dr.Stiffler said so many times that people should follow his exact steps in order to re-create the effect, so I think we owe it to him to do so, at least at first. And please let's drop this power measurements stuff, you and I both know that those numbers are fictitious, the Watts are derived from the Amps and as Bedini said, I'd love to see someone actually show me what 1 Amp is.

Otherwise, I do not know if this confirms anything or not. My findings are just my own and others should try to re-create this - we cannot draw any conclusions based on just one report alone, so get cracking everyone

[hartiberlin]

Okay, maybe we should really do some battery tests, how long your 12 Volts battery will last by
powering this circuit ?
Please compare it to driving the LEDs with pure 12 Volts DC on a current limiting resistor
at about the same brightness.

Surely the Thomas circuit will last longer, cause batteries seem to have more capacity at AC
or pulse draining.
Probably a chemical effect in batteries.