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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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Branko

Akashh,

I know that with radioactive is easy to make electricity. Just use plate in air, capacitance and ground (this is Tesla's system for radiant receiver).
But I more like 'clean' ionization (high voltage and high frequency). My investigation go through that idea. I make ionization around plate in air, and free ions and electrons in air going through that path to ground. Transformer for that ionization need to be without ground, and that HF energy need to be recycle. It could make great virtual area. Highest the voltage or greatest space between two transformer plates, and highest height, will make greatest ionization 'cloud' in the air for collecting air current (stratosphere to ground).

On my pages (you ask about coil) i have my equations for coil. But it is standard air coil, and work in the ground will be little different. Important is to have inductance and parasitic capacitance information (for air coil I have good equation). Problem is with resistance, because it is function of frequency (for air coil I make some equations). If frequency is low (I think it is in that earth battery system), resistance can be just measure with standard instrument. Voltage 'amplification' or Q factor is Q=wL/R.

I think that important is to know Tesla's measurement of thunders part of spectrum (from his patent words its is around 30-70 km wave length).

And his bifilar winding coil, has good properties (because of high parasitic capacitance between winding).

My investigation is little different, but source of that energy is the same.
"Nikola Tesla and My Thoughts":
http://free-ri.htnet.hr/Branko/index.html

Pirate88179

@ Branko:

From my work on the earth batteries I read that some Russians determined the earth freq. (for electrical currents) to be between 1 to 5 Hz.  This is very low frequency but, I have also read that, to predict earthquakes, they listen for very low frequency.  I don't know if this is related or not but, I would bet it is.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Gustav22

First I want to freely quote Alexander V. Frolov from his text on
http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov2.htm
(also quoted as reference material by Dr. Stiffler:
___free quote___
Note that term "zero" is not "absolute nothing" but "zero" can have an inner structure. Zero can be created as the sum of two opposite values, a negative one
and a positive one. Also zero can be created as the result of interaction of three or more values.
___end of quote___
This leads me to understand that zero represents a balanced state.
Frolov also writes, that if
1 + (-1) = 0
is true, then
0 = 1 + (-1)
must also be true.

Quote from: EMdevices on November 26, 2007, 09:08:30 AM
.....
Can you guess why this circuits secondary works in "open" loop ....

My attempt to answer:

A blocking oscillator (see grey area in illustration) is also called a  rejector circuit (DE: Sperrkreis) and is a special RLC-circuit. It consists of an inductance and a cap in parallel. It takes it's name from the following effect:
At a certain frequency the overall current through such a circuit is minimal. In an ideal  blocking oscillator this overall current at a certain frequency is 0 A.
As the current is min. the power consumed (P = U*I) at that frequency is also minimal.

However, this min. current or "zero Amps" is "the sum of all currents" in the branches of that blocking oscillator circuit (at that certain frequency which is also called the circuit's resonance frequency).

For this total current to be min. or zero, the currents in the coil branch and in the capacitor branch of the circuit must be equal and anti-parallel.

Now let's use the (short) coil of this blocking oscillator (L1 in illustration) and wind it around a (long) coil (L2 in illustration). We have created a step-up transformer.

Now we can make use of this (long) secondary coil and employ it as the L in another RLC-circuit.
But we don't use it to build another blocking oscillator but instead we build a series resonance circuit (see light blue area in illustration).
In order to do this we have to place a cap in series with our long coil.
However, we don't buy a cap, but just leave both ends of the circuit open. These two ends are in fact a cap, as every cap is just that: Two conducting ends which are sperated by an insulator.

Note that the effect of a series resonance circuit is just the opposite of the effects produced by a blocking oscillator.
In a series resonance circuit, current is max. when the circuit hits its resonance frequency.

So the coil in our series resonance circuit is the secondary side of a step-up transformer.
Current at resonance in this 'circuit' will be max. so we can light lots of LEDs and hopefully also power other loads soon.

This is my understanding and an attempt to explain what we see with basic high school physics.

If my understanding is seriously flawed, I kindly ask you to point out the mistakes.
money for rope

Branko

Sorry, I make mistake, and I post here (I click in another tab in my browser). My upper post was answer for 'Earth battery experiments'.

I will try comment upper picture...

This system is HF transformer and it has receiver on other part ( 2 diodes and capacitance). On my web pages I am explain that receiving (recycling) energy. This system could become extra energy DC current receiver. It need some plate in air, and high inductance path (DC will pass, AC will not) to another capacitance between that path to ground. Then, it will collect DC current from air (stratosphere to ground). That is my new theory based on Nikola Tesla investigation. Extra energy depend about area of plate, height and ionization (virtual) because of HF voltage.

P.S.
That automatic underlining is not 'my web pages'... Link is in bottom of every post.
"Nikola Tesla and My Thoughts":
http://free-ri.htnet.hr/Branko/index.html

hoptoad

Quote from: Gustav22 on November 28, 2007, 03:35:42 AM
A blocking oscillator (see grey area in illustration) is also called a  rejector circuit (DE: Sperrkreis) and is a special RLC-circuit. It consists of an inductance and a cap in parallel. It takes it's name from the following effect:
At a certain frequency the overall current through such a circuit is minimal. In an ideal  blocking oscillator this overall current at a certain frequency is 0 A.
As the current is min. the power consumed (P = U*I) at that frequency is also minimal.
However, this min. current or "zero Amps" is "the sum of all currents" in the branches of that blocking oscillator circuit (at that certain frequency which is also called the circuit's resonance frequency).
For this total current to be min. or zero, the currents in the coil branch and in the capacitor branch of the circuit must be equal and anti-parallel.
Now let's use the (short) coil of this blocking oscillator (L1 in illustration) and wind it around a (long) coil (L2 in illustration). We have created a step-up transformer.
Now we can make use of this (long) secondary coil and employ it as the L in another RLC-circuit.
But we don't use it to build another blocking oscillator but instead we build a series resonance circuit (see light blue area in illustration).
In order to do this we have to place a cap in series with our long coil.
However, we don't buy a cap, but just leave both ends of the circuit open. These two ends are in fact a cap, as every cap is just that: Two conducting ends which are sperated by an insulator.
Note that the effect of a series resonance circuit is just the opposite of the effects produced by a blocking oscillator.
In a series resonance circuit, current is max. when the circuit hits its resonance frequency.
So the coil in our series resonance circuit is the secondary side of a step-up transformer.
Current at resonance in this 'circuit' will be max. so we can light lots of LEDs and hopefully also power other loads soon.
This is my understanding and an attempt to explain what we see with basic high school physics.
If my understanding is seriously flawed, I kindly ask you to point out the mistakes.
@Gustav22
Very well explained! Thanks for refreshing my hazy memory on several circuit functions   :)
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