Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[zaydana]

allcanadian:

I set up some capacitors and AV plugs, and as you said, it seems that a capacitor connected to an AV plug charges. I got to about 0.8V in one night on an 8200uF cap.

That said, i'm still not convinced it is anything other than radio interference doing the charging. I've noticed that hooking a nice long arial to the AV plug charges the cap a lot faster than just leaving it by itself. Having the aluminium backing again helps speed up the charging, it seems. And lastly, when my cheap power supply is on, the caps charge faster again :-). With the positive lead from the power supply running to an AV plug, the caps charge at a rate of knots.

Again, I'd like to stress that i'm not trying to say the SEC exciter is a radio receiver, just that I think its possible that at least part (not necessarily all) of the weird results people are getting is just radio interference.

[allcanadian]

@zaydana

I set up some capacitors and AV plugs, and as you said, it seems that a capacitor connected to an AV plug charges. I got to about 0.8V in one night on an 8200uF cap.
That said, i'm still not convinced it is anything other than radio interference doing the charging. I've noticed that hooking a nice long arial to the AV plug charges the cap a lot faster than just leaving it by itself. Having the aluminium backing again helps speed up the charging, it seems. And lastly, when my cheap power supply is on, the caps charge faster again :-). With the positive lead from the power supply running to an AV plug, the caps charge at a rate of knots.
Again, I'd like to stress that i'm not trying to say the SEC exciter is a radio receiver, just that I think its possible that at least part (not necessarily all) of the weird results people are getting is just radio interference.

Personally I would go as far to say it "is" RF (high frequency oscillations)charging the cap through the AV plug, the cap without the AV plug did not charge and the one with the AV plug did therefore the AV plug must be the catalyst for the "charging" effect. Crystal radio's are based on this very premise----that is a tuned LC tank with a half wave rectified output. The question is what frequency is the AV plug recieving and from where? and what is the mechanism whereby the AV plug can recieve this energy?

I think its possible that at least part (not necessarily all) of the weird results people are getting is just radio interference

LOL Some engineers have spent there entire lives seeking to understand what you refer to as "radio interference". Recently some fellows from MIT used this "radio interference" to send over 40w of energy through thin air over a distance of 6 feet to light a 40w bulb. They will probably become millionares because of there understanding of how one could do such a thing.
I realize I have probably taken what you meant to say out of context to make my point but I think 99.99% of most people would dismiss this "AV plug capacitor charging" as nothing of interest, I however find it absolutely fascinating.
It's interesting to note that Henry T Moray believed all space was filled with energy as high frequency oscillations and supposedly built a device which could recieve over 50,000 watts from these oscillations.

[tishatang]

@allcanadian
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Personally I would go as far to say it "is" RF (high frequency oscillations)charging the cap through the AV plug, the cap without the AV plug did not charge and the one with the AV plug did therefore the AV plug must be the catalyst for the "charging" effect. Crystal radio's are based on this very premise----that is a tuned LC tank with a half wave rectified output. The question is what frequency is the AV plug recieving and from where? and what is the mechanism whereby the AV plug can recieve this energy?


I just made a post here that might answer some of the questions you just posed.  Hook your AV plug to a caduceus wound toroid as explained at the bottom of my last post.  You may want to read some of my earlier posts to see where I am coming from.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4454.msg102761/topicseen.html#msg102761

Tishatang

[Loki67671]

@zaydana,
While there may very well be "stray" RF floating around everywhere inducing voltages in circuits and you for that matter, have you ever measured these? We measure signal strength and we calculate voltages in the microvolt range. Millionths of a volt, that's real small. That is what I have around me as far as "stray RF" goes. A spectrum analyzer is the instrument of choice here. I don't know what energy you are capturing but I can assure you that the spectrum in my local is relatively quiet across the band in question. Definitely so in the dungeon of a basement I have, the SA shows nothing down there. There are a few small signals and the standard police, fire, commercial, and stuff in the 400MHz bands above ground level. That is until the SEC is fired up.  I'm looking at this on my spectrum analyzer not speculating. The broadband excitation is initiated by a SEC exciter and when adjusted correctly, as illustrated and shared by Dr. Stiffler mathematically now also, apparently causes the fabric of the universe to give up just a little bit of this energy to us. I am going to be attempting to measure this starting next week while on vacation.  I'm set up and ready to get some calorimetric data.

Hey, I'm not asking you to believe it and I'm not asking you to buy anything either. Dr Stiffler did not build the SEC devices for profit because at the price he charged he didn't make a damn penny. He probably lost money trying to get the average "Joe" to try and "PROVE THIS TO HIMSELF" Don't believe anything including speculative your own this, that, and the other. Just do it for yourself! Try to measure some extra energy being manifested in the SEC device. You are correct, an AV plug is apt to show you some behavior you may or may not be used to. I reproduced your circuit here at my place and it does nothing for me. I also reproduced Dr. Stiffler's circuits and purchased SEC-3 boards and they do some very interesting things. The broadband excitation alone is strange. Try building a broadband exciter and see. I still am just starting to understand this. 
I don't want to hear people bitching about gas and energy prices because it our own damn fault. Get off of you butts and start doing something about it. Dr Stiffler is and he's trying to share the workload. This is entry research work not application engineering. You aren't going to buy a SEC based hot water tank on the market anytime soon I don't think. You'll have to build your own, if you can. You aren't going to see cheap alternative fueled vehicles either, you'll have to do that also. Wake up folks, no one is coming to save you, especially those getting rich on mine and your oil addictions. 
This forum is so quiet it is unreal.  What did you folks do with your SEC's? Hell I've gone through a dozen transistors and Ne's so far, at least.  I've managed to build my own too and I'm beginning to wonder why the hell I'm posting it here. 

Have a great day,

Jim

[Loki67671]

Hi all

I've got an SEC 15-3 still coming in the mail, but I'd really like to play around with this stuff now. I've noticed that the SEC board doesn't seem to have the big copper pipe for the coil, but the latest driver circuit posted on Stiffler Scientific does. Apart from that coil, i've probably got everything I need to set up an SEC driver on my breadboard, so I was wondering if anybody could point me to what I should do about the coil?

@zaydana,
In place of the copper pipe, or screen before that, we are now using a 22uH 13MHz SRF epoxy dipped RF choke available from many sources, in the same circuit location. Please forgive my grumpy-gram it is not intended to discourage anyone. I wasted the rear diff on my pickup this morning. Tend to make you a little edgy. 
Also, the presented circuit progression forward is well documented in these pages as is enough information to shoot for measurement of COP>1 performance. There is no substitute for the reading and study plus ample time with the circuit. Sorry. If there is one thing of value I learned from traditional mainstream schooling it is in fact "how to learn". The rest is captured in reference books that need to be modified on a quarterly basis. Maybe not modified but surely reviewed.  Keep at it and welcome aboard. I look forward to many discussions about this and finding out what is driving your Ne. 

@All,
Off your butts! Hell at least go solar, I'll be walking for awhile. 

Best regards,

Jim