Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

Just to clarify:

Measuring the voltage on the output resistor (inside the
pulse generator) with a scope (using  2 channels vs. gnd)
- or simply measure its temperature - is what I ment.
Output power can be calculated graphically - wouldn?t
trust ANY rms meter in this setup.
Or measure the power consumption of the pulse generator
output stage (DC) with open, shorted, or cirucuit attached... -
and than estimate....

rgds.

[jonesbeene]

If this type of circuit really does involve so-called "cold electricity" then why would you Fritz (Wolfgang), or anyone else expect a "conventional" meter or scope to give an accurate representation of what is happening?

Let me say up front that I do not know what cold-electricity is, nor do I know if it is a total fiction or not, nor do I know how to measure it otherwise. Until a few days ago, I would probably have chimed-in with the rest of you with a resounding "balderdash- no such thing as cold electricity" refrain.

That is precisely why this circuit begs to be replicated by those coming from differing backgrounds and perspectives. If others see the same thing, then perhaps it will allow a bit more credence, or confidence - to the entire concept of "cold electricity".

Otherwise Wolf and Linda, who are generally correct wrt conventional EE- are spinning their collective wheels in the mud of mainstream-limited-horizons.

Of course, even if cold electricity does not exist, the idea of a SigGen heating a resistor to such a degree is laughable.

Jones

[Freenrg4me]

*Removed* by RStiffler

[BEP]

My definition of cold electricity:

It is when your 10 Watt 1 ohm resistor, wired in series to the test circuit gets noticeably cooler than it should be. You freak out and check it with your IR thermometer and it shows much cooler than the bench area - even though it has been setting there all day and it is carrying current. Then you give up and have a cool one to clean the wild thoughts from your head. (Notice I didn't say 'another cool one'.)

After clarity arrives you decide to keep it to yourself because you are still bruised from the last time you made something like that public for replication.

Just my opinion.

[jonesbeene]

Let me add one further thing into the mix - i.e. there is a distinct possibility of driving an LED to full brightness with a circuit which indicates absolutely *zero power* (measured with a conventional dedicated power analyzer) yet this circuit need not violate the sacrosanct Laws of Thermodynamics.

Just  today this story appeared in the science press
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/533411/?sc=dwhp

... where an RF circuit is used "cool" a tiny silicon cantilever?  similar to the tuning forks used in 'quartz' watches but smaller ? and vibrating at 7 kHz its natural ?resonant? frequency and not far off from the loopstick. Well, this is a conversion, or transfer of one form of energy to another, and it is conservative - but it can offer some insight on how other resonant circuits might operate to "bootstrap" thermal or natural magnetic vibration into a separate electrical circuit - and give the appearance of overunity, when in fact the circuit is merely taping into a bit of ambient energy, not necessarily thermal.

In this case above the experimenters cooled the miniature lever from room temperature down to -228 C - quite impressive. I mention this experiment in the context of a ferrite core, where an (unnoticed) one degree or less, delta T change in entropy could perhaps- be converted into milliwatts of another form of energy ? We simply do not know what is going on.

Even if this explanation is way-off (it probably is since it is not well-thought out yet) the important point is that there are many hidden sources of ambient energy, there is a massive flux of solar neutrinos, Dirac energy and so on--  and a circuit which "appears" to extract 50 milliwatts from "nowhere" may be limited to whatever can be cohered from the hidden source.

IOW this circuit in question need not violate sacrosanct Laws of Thermodynamics, but it may 'violate' that EE degree, if it is frozen-in-time, and cannot be defrosted (even with RF irradiation ;-)

Jones