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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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abassign

Dr. Stiffler has done an experiment with all the device inside a metal container, it was clear that the LED was remaining on ... If Stefan has some doubts it is good that he places them with clearness so that Stiffler can define a new set of experiments. However, if the phenomenon described by Stiffler is reproduceable, it will not delay to come outside other. Stiffler has the advantage to have done experiments for many years and therefore he obtains better results.

amigo

Nice flurry of activity in just one day, I'm glad doc stuck around when I asked him to, but I'm worried with the last developments he won't be coming back :(

@Stefan

For GOD'S SAKE what are you doing man? As a moderator and an admin even, you should be the first one to set an example not to do what you are doing.

When someone starts a thread on any subject, posts in that thread usually stay on that subject and if they don't MODS make sure they do. Granted, some digressions are permitted but in this case you do not go banging on all doors insulting the person making the claim by questioning their intelligence, especially in a situation like this where the goal and purpose of all of us being here is to find alternative sources of energy. We are all on the same side here, if that's not possible then we might as well disband and go our own merry ways.

If an OP starts a thread and makes a claim (or an original inventor is brought into the thread), then discloses a principle and practical replication guide, he's asking everyone to try to replicate his claim and report back on the success (or failure). Instead there were half a dozen other attempts in butchering the original claim (one by yourself included) which swayed from the original claim ultimately leading to a disaster as evident from the last post by Dr.Stiffler.

To make matters worse, latest posts have nothing in common with the original claim and do not belong in this thread whatsoever. Yes it's cute to see dozens of LEDs light up on a pulsed DC or work in any other way, but that's not the principle of the claim. You as a mod/admin should step in and do your "job" - moderate - tell the posters to stay on topic or kindly start their own threads.

All that has been accomplished here was bomb the thread after 26 pages and make the inventor leave it, insulted.

@all

I'm sorry to preach about this, but it seems to me many of you do not know or understand what "Netiquette" is or how to act accordingly. Have you all just learnt about the Internet recently or what?

I will repeat for absent Dr.Stiffler: The main claim circuit principle (to best of my understanding) is based on a decoupling link of C1 and L1 in the primary - they are mandatory. You do not remove them and plug ground or signal generator without those components. That's not the basic claim and you are doing a dis-service in your feeble attempts of replication without them.

Once you stand upright then you can walk, so once you achieve the basic circuit operation as outlined in the primary claim, then you can move on to removing parts and experimenting and posting your findings here. Just because Dr.Stiffler has removed them in his other circuits does not mean that everyone should jump in and butcher the circuit out. He had said that he expects everyone to first replicate the basic circuit and report on their findings and positive outcome.

Otherwise start a new thread and call it "Dr.Stiffler's circuit - modification experiment"...

My 2c.

rickMave

Quote from: abassign on October 31, 2007, 06:18:26 PM
Dr. Stiffler has done an experiment with all the device inside a metal container, it was clear that the LED was remaining on ...
Is this true?  The video I saw with the circuit in a metal container was not all inside - it had a lead coming out of it and going to earth.  None of his circuits seem to be able to work without some similar sort of "earth" or aerial.  We know from Dr Stifflers measurement on circuit #7 in figure 15 and 16 that there may be ~200mA RF flowing in that earth lead.  That would be enough to light ~20 LEDs in parallel (10 pointing one way and 10 the other) if there was enough voltage also on the lead.  So maybe the circuit #7 would light an additional 20 LEDs wired in this earth lead!  Unfortunately Dr Stiffler did not see fit to look for a voltage there.

If only he could provide this measurement (as I requested earlier) then we could know what power flow this current represents.  But maybe that is part of the tease to get others experimenting.

Maybe even he himself doesn't want the answer to that question - it might be very discouraging to find that all the power was flowing in from outside.  But I think that such a strange effect would be just as interesting to investigate and probably just as useful from a power generation point of view. Who cares where the power is coming from as long as it is easy and free!

Such an easy measurement, and so useful an answer.  How sad that he is gone now.

k4zep

Quote from: rickMave on October 31, 2007, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: abassign on October 31, 2007, 06:18:26 PM
Dr. Stiffler has done an experiment with all the device inside a metal container, it was clear that the LED was remaining on ...
Is this true?  The video I saw with the circuit in a metal container was not all inside - it had a lead coming out of it and going to earth.  None of his circuits seem to be able to work without some similar sort of "earth" or aerial.  We know from Dr Stifflers measurement on circuit #7 in figure 15 and 16 that there may be ~200mA RF flowing in that earth lead.  That would be enough to light ~20 LEDs in parallel (10 pointing one way and 10 the other) if there was enough voltage also on the lead.  So maybe the circuit #7 would light an additional 20 LEDs wired in this earth lead!  Unfortunately Dr Stiffler did not see fit to look for a voltage there.

If only he could provide this measurement (as I requested earlier) then we could know what power flow this current represents.  But maybe that is part of the tease to get others experimenting.

Maybe even he himself doesn't want the answer to that question - it might be very discouraging to find that all the power was flowing in from outside.  But I think that such a strange effect would be just as interesting to investigate and probably just as useful from a power generation point of view. Who cares where the power is coming from as long as it is easy and free!

Such an easy measurement, and so useful an answer.  How sad that he is gone now.

I sure hope he keeps on with this at least on his home site and YouTube anyway.  I have this weird suspicion that the whole device in Circuit 7, Fig. 15, 16 is acting as sort of a top loaded antenna reference to ground and somehow, the LEDs and coils are a form of Osc. if you read all he has to say about that circuit!, Just look at the scope shot, the damn thing is burst oscillating.  I also suspect if you added a 3rd coil set same as L1/L2 at the top of the schematic and fed it in reverse with a simple long wire broadband antenna, output would be shall we say LARGE? I have also seen the circuit before on a crazy Texans site who said he generated Kw's of energy from an outside antenna referenced to ground!  He didn't have a clue as to how it worked, just said it did.......at the time I thought he was nuts.  I also read an article several years ago about an "energy sucking antenna", I think this circuit and its brothers are basically this!  More "Power" to this type of circuit........What a Pun!

Remember what Ex President Clinton said Ron when he was heckled..................."If you will shut up and listen, I'll talk" or something like that!

Later,

Ben

AhuraMazda


Dr Stiffler,
This list does not belong to one person. On the whole, I would say people on this thread are fascinated by your circuit and are all intelligent enthusiasts and naturally have questions.  I know you have a lot more tricks up your sleeve with this so, where would you direct your fans?