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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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amigo

I'm sorry if this is going to sound scolding but I'm itching to write it...

The more I read here the more I realize that I should go look elsewhere for ideas and people willing to work on alternative energy. Many of you have exhibited orthodox signs of brainwashing by the establishment and just plain confined thinking inside the box. You keep obsessing about numbers, formulas, measurements, miliwatts and miliamps; while I keep writing how that's totally unimportant as is a distraction from where we are supposed to go, but alas...

A side story, did any one of you majored in math? I knew math well years ago, thankfully I have forgotten most of it, but what had stuck in my head is that you can "massage" anything into a proof (or disproof), depending on your goal. I remember one instance when at the end of a solution you had 1=2, which was a very clever trick we used to pass on in the early grammar school, and yet it was totally valid when looked from a certain point of view.

But let me read between my own lines: no amount of proof you want, expect, demand, require, hope for, etc, will be enough when it comes to subjects outside of orthodox scientific world. Someone will always say "Yes, it lights 100 LEDs, but can it light 200?". That's just how pathetic human beings are, partially because of their own fault, partially because of the parents and the society who have brought everyone up on the premise of scarcity and separation from everything that surrounds us. We constantly have to compete with each other because everything is in shortage. STOP!

For God's sake go read Bucky Fuller and his "ravings" about abundance, then come back with a fresh perspective on the World, and perhaps alternative energy in general.

I'll refer again to my previous post in case you have missed it, just so you know where I'm coming from/leading to. This talk about aluminium plates and RF engineering is just a clever ploy to keep us thinking in circles (a closed loop, hah). If you are unwilling to peek outside the box and if you are constantly going to loop back into what the orthodox science expects you to do, then please leave, but don't obstruct those few people who might think differently.

The search for alternative energy solution has nothing to do with measurements and numbers and everything to do with dreams and imagination. If you do not dare to dream then your place is elsewhere. If you are going to be the lackey to the orthodox scientific community then you are only serving a troll function in any alternative forum, for their (scholars of orthodox science) goal is to maintain the status quo, why else do you think they are called "orthodox".

Need I mention an example of mere 100 years ago when the Wright brothers officially re-discovered flight, probably being the laughing stock of the whole county for claiming a man can fly, prior to their maiden flight. They had a vision they followed through against those who had asked them if they've done their math on the aerodynamics (which did not even exist then, pun intended) disbelieving and downplaying their dream on every step.

I have just realized I'm rambling, it's late and I'm tired, so I'll cut it down else I feel could write volumes. If there's anything of importance that everyone here should read about alternative energy, in my opinion, by far and wide are Tesla's writings (and of those who studied them). He had done all the work for us 100 years ago, granted he did not spell it all out so there's some tinkering to be done on our own, but otherwise it is all there, scattered in his life's work.

Why is it so difficult to accept things from a century ago, treating them as outlandish, while embracing today's BS theories about quantum this and entanglement that as if they are axioms (in truth they are just distractions meant to suck the money out of people and produce no tangible and useful results, and yet people accept them as if they are law written in stone)?

No sky is too high and no dream is too silly, because mind has no boundaries. So set your mind free...please!

dean_mcgowan

Quote from: amigo on November 20, 2007, 10:41:06 PM
I'm sorry if this is going to sound scolding but I'm itching to write it...

The more I read here the more I realize that I should go look elsewhere for ideas and people willing to work on alternative energy. Many of you have exhibited orthodox signs of brainwashing by the establishment and just plain confined thinking inside the box. You keep obsessing about numbers, formulas, measurements, miliwatts and miliamps; while I keep writing how that's totally unimportant as is a distraction from where we are supposed to go, but alas...

A side story, did any one of you majored in math? I knew math well years ago, thankfully I have forgotten most of it, but what had stuck in my head is that you can "massage" anything into a proof (or disproof), depending on your goal. I remember one instance when at the end of a solution you had 1=2, which was a very clever trick we used to pass on in the early grammar school, and yet it was totally valid when looked from a certain point of view.

But let me read between my own lines: no amount of proof you want, expect, demand, require, hope for, etc, will be enough when it comes to subjects outside of orthodox scientific world. Someone will always say "Yes, it lights 100 LEDs, but can it light 200?". That's just how pathetic human beings are, partially because of their own fault, partially because of the parents and the society who have brought everyone up on the premise of scarcity and separation from everything that surrounds us. We constantly have to compete with each other because everything is in shortage. STOP!

For God's sake go read Bucky Fuller and his "ravings" about abundance, then come back with a fresh perspective on the World, and perhaps alternative energy in general.

I'll refer again to my previous post in case you have missed it, just so you know where I'm coming from/leading to. This talk about aluminium plates and RF engineering is just a clever ploy to keep us thinking in circles (a closed loop, hah). If you are unwilling to peek outside the box and if you are constantly going to loop back into what the orthodox science expects you to do, then please leave, but don't obstruct those few people who might think differently.

The search for alternative energy solution has nothing to do with measurements and numbers and everything to do with dreams and imagination. If you do not dare to dream then your place is elsewhere. If you are going to be the lackey to the orthodox scientific community then you are only serving a troll function in any alternative forum, for their (scholars of orthodox science) goal is to maintain the status quo, why else do you think they are called "orthodox".

Need I mention an example of mere 100 years ago when the Wright brothers officially re-discovered flight, probably being the laughing stock of the whole county for claiming a man can fly, prior to their maiden flight. They had a vision they followed through against those who had asked them if they've done their math on the aerodynamics (which did not even exist then, pun intended) disbelieving and downplaying their dream on every step.

I have just realized I'm rambling, it's late and I'm tired, so I'll cut it down else I feel could write volumes. If there's anything of importance that everyone here should read about alternative energy, in my opinion, by far and wide are Tesla's writings (and of those who studied them). He had done all the work for us 100 years ago, granted he did not spell it all out so there's some tinkering to be done on our own, but otherwise it is all there, scattered in his life's work.

Why is it so difficult to accept things from a century ago, treating them as outlandish, while embracing today's BS theories about quantum this and entanglement that as if they are axioms (in truth they are just distractions meant to suck the money out of people and produce no tangible and useful results, and yet people accept them as if they are law written in stone)?

No sky is too high and no dream is too silly, because mind has no boundaries. So set your mind free...please!

I see .. so you are advocating becoming more ignorant to make more progress ... fascinating !!!

Shanjaq

Thank you Amigo, that just made my dayÃ,  :]

illegitimi non carborundum!

DrZLowe7

Quote from: plengo on November 20, 2007, 10:24:40 PM
since no one will answer my questions above, I will:
QuoteN. Tesla wrote that radio receiver take power from either but not from
radio station transmitter. The consumption power of transmitter is not
increasing when many receivers are in operate. This is the way for creation
of information in space-time that can be used for transformation it in power.
This is from:
Alexander V. Frolov   email: alex@frolov.spb.su
P. O. Box 37,  St.-Petersburg,  193024,  Russia

I still think RF will NOT produce the power necessary to run the LEDs. RF is only the EFFECT of it. It is somehow allowing the energy to come from some place else. RF will "amplify" the space-time deformation and allow the EFFECT (current and potential) to manifest in the little closed loop circuit of the LEDs so that they will be excited to the point of emitting light.

In my experiment when I connected the Func.Gen to an inverter connected to a battery, it was using so much X power but when the LEDs were lit (because of th correct frequency being set) the power usage went "DOWN" not up. Anyone can reproduce this. Dr. Stiffler is still right in his claim of "amplification".

I think we can create something that will "amplify" this EFFECT of the RF over any coil of "matter" that has intricic connection with ZPE (zero-point-energy or vaccum) such as an inductor. But if you only invest time and brain power.

Fausto.

Anyone to refute this?

Say what??? Space-Time. EEK
I stated earlier every 20 years or so things come back into fashion but this one goes way back.
When I was young about 13 years I was reading about electromagnetic effects. It was a belief at the time the book I was reading that there existed an "Ether" this was matter but not like normal matter it was not made of atoms and such and filled all the empty space between electrons and protons etc. although it was not effected much by matter an electron passing through it caused a wake. This wake was tangible and what was thought to be lines of force you see from a magnet. That made perfect sense to me. So an electron passing in a wire causes an "Ether" wake. And if reversed its flow the wake would travel in the "Ether".
However the "Ether" theory was dropped and I no longer could visualize magnetic fields. So may theories came about to explain it however the "Ether" made more sense to me.
Anyway due to new findings scientist not to admit they were wrong about the "Ether" called it "Dark Matter". It is very similar to the old "Ether" only has weight. So now it is "Dark Matter".
Here is simple fact when his coil peeked the resistance of the coil mathematically should be infinite. But since no coil is perfect your current will drop at resonance. This has nothing to do "Seacetime" the 5th dimension or any thing but resonance.
You need to know more about electronics and less about "Space Time" and over analizing something.
Buy the way was ZPM coined before or after the Sci-FY series "Stargate".

DrZLowe7

Quote from: amigo on November 20, 2007, 10:41:06 PM
I'm sorry if this is going to sound scolding but I'm itching to write it...

The more I read here the more I realize that I should go look elsewhere for ideas and people willing to work on alternative energy. Many of you have exhibited orthodox signs of brainwashing by the establishment and just plain confined thinking inside the box. You keep obsessing about numbers, formulas, measurements, miliwatts and miliamps; while I keep writing how that's totally unimportant as is a distraction from where we are supposed to go, but alas...

A side story, did any one of you majored in math? I knew math well years ago, thankfully I have forgotten most of it, but what had stuck in my head is that you can "massage" anything into a proof (or disproof), depending on your goal. I remember one instance when at the end of a solution you had 1=2, which was a very clever trick we used to pass on in the early grammar school, and yet it was totally valid when looked from a certain point of view.


I know you forgot your math. But we are not using complaced algebra here. "Watts in" - "Watts out" . Is "Watts out" positive or negative.
We are not brain washed we are open to advancement. The Wright Brothers had to prove flight and did just claiming it. The devices you are making require Math as the Wright Brother needed air. As your claims can not fly without math no more than Wright Brothers could prove flight with out air.
I am not telling you not to explore just find ways to measure and prove. And quit saying math in this instance is of no value.