Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[EMdevices]

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[DrZLowe7]

DRZ,  are you on another wavelegth?

I can see what he is doing clearly and I understand.   I suggest you study the drawings a bit and make yourself a circuit after them.

You might be confused about series and parallel.

He has the LED's in SERIES.   So if each has an assumed 3 Volts drop across them how much of a voltage drop will 52  SERIES connected diodes have?     

Let's do the math    3 + 3 + 3 + ....+ 3 +3 .... + 3   =  52 x 3 =  156 Volts    Got it?

Now the current running through all the diodes is  8.6 mA,   Got it?

So   Power out is    156 Volts x  8.6 mA = 1.34 watts    Got it?

This will be the last time I will walk you by the hand.   And this goes for anybody else that's building up courage and joining in the perceived bashing of Dr Stiffler.   It's one thing to ask intelligent questions and another to be plain silly.

EM

I did not see this post. You inserted it before my last post. Or I would have not sent you a message.

[EMdevices]

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[DrStiffler]

Ok, thank you,  then that's encouraging.    Assumptions are nothing bad as long as they're applicable and reasonable.


The break even point for OU in this case would be:

Vdiode =  0.936 watts / (8.6 mA x 52)  =  2.09 Volts

So you're assumption is well above this breakeven voltage drop / diode.      I would say you have something significant.

But to be sure, I would measure the DC voltage at the 10 uF capacitor.   If there is quite an AC ripple on it, I would filter the heck out of it with ferrites and include another capacitor if I have to. 

In my previous experimentation, I noticed typical LEDs give out quite a bit of light starting at 1.9 Volts and only get brighter from there.  I'm not insinuating your assumptions are not correct, don't missunderstand, I'm just trying to be carefull when it comes to excess energy measurements.   I made claims like this before and I later retracted.  Hopefully you won't have too.  I hope not.

EM

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In my previous experimentation, I noticed typical LEDs give out quite a bit of light starting at 1.9 Volts and only get brighter from there.

Agree, sorry I'm not where I can pull up the information, but there exist on the web a couple of papers on LEDS and frequency response. Of the two I am thinking of they are 100% opposed. One states that the eye sees a brighter LED when it is excited by RF vs. DC. The other paper says that is false, that as the frequency goes up it approaches DC closer, therefore DC will produce the maximum brightness.

I have worked with Red LEDS that will glow with currents I can not measure and flashed white LEDS from picking up 60Hz AC on a long wire. So indeed you have a valid point. Although you would be asking me to ignore my understanding and trust for my instrumentation much the same as I am asking an academic to look out of the box at my work. I feel comfortable with my measurements, even though there most likely exists 500k others that do not. So be it, what can one do?

[fritz]

So Fritz, why don't you take three minutes and get back to us? I have my path charted and it does not include personal requests. I think I must have a great amount of faith in myself to go through this, so help out here and get us a few measurements if your not comfortable?

Sorry,

Will check out my ebay Vectorscope and the nice piezos I got today
and hide away in my lab.

rgds, good luck.