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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: tinu on November 11, 2007, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: leeroyjenkinsii on November 11, 2007, 04:05:12 PM
Has anyone recreated this or is it just another FRAUD??

Under replication, so far.

My strong belief: it is a fraud.
All ?perpetual magnetic motors? are. There is no such thing.

Good night,
Tinu
Your strong belief ... This isn't religion buddy. You'd better try to learn the elementary concepts of Physics first before expressing incompetent opinions no one needs. What nerve.

Qwert

 Quote from: Omnibus: Reply #466 on: Today at 07:37:55 PM

>"Better yet of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jZjEYu9BbW0. This whole thread is about it."<

Hey, Omnibus. Now you tell me what's your point? Why SMOT is better over other ideas, especially over those already working machines (Minato, Reed, Gamma, etc.). What is so special in that, that a steel ball rolls along a track set between two V-shaped rows of magnetic lines, started at wider side? There's nothing devine. No other force except magnetic one. One with some imagination can see some resemblance in the idea described here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3456.msg54069.html#msg54069
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3456.0;attach=13487

Imagine that they are two V-shaped halves, circle-shaped; rotor instead of the steel ball.

Omnibus

Quote from: Qwert on November 11, 2007, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: Omnibus: Reply #466 on: Today at 07:37:55 PM

>"Better yet of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jZjEYu9BbW0. This whole thread is about it."<

Hey, Omnibus. Now you tell me what's your point? Why SMOT is better over other ideas, especially over those already working machines (Minato, Reed, Gamma, etc.). What is so special in that, that a steel ball rolls along a track set between two V-shaped rows of magnetic lines, started at wider side? There's nothing devine. No other force except magnetic one. One with some imagination can see some resemblance in the idea described here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3456.msg54069.html#msg54069
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3456.0;attach=13487

Imagine that they are two V-shaped halves, circle-shaped; rotor instead of the steel ball.

See, the thing is, I agree with you in principle. However, as it was already discussed here, using magnet-to-magnet constructions ends up in some cooperative phenomena among the magnets because of their intrinsic lack of uniformity of induction (although the shapes are exactly equal). This was one of the reasons why Torbay couldn't demonstrate it in NYC. These devices are extremely sensitive and bringing it from Argentina to the US disjointed it so that Torbay couldn't reproduce what he had (a government minister providing the money for the experiment assured me of this) in Argentina. Here in this case the problem with the non-uniformity of the magnets is resolved radically by having a magnet-to-iron type of interaction. And this is what SMOT is, isn't it. Remember, there hasn't been a single device so far except for SMOT that has really worked in a reproducible manner. This is one of the reasons. Try making a SMOT with a magnetic ball. Would be interesting to see if it'll work. Like I said, you may take a look somewhere at the beginning of this thread where these problems were discussed.


Omnibus

Quote from: klicUK on November 11, 2007, 10:13:35 PM
Quote from: leeroyjenkinsii on November 11, 2007, 04:05:12 PM
Has anyone recreated this or is it just another FRAUD??

It's being sold on ebay - search xpenzif

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=xpenzif&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=

I hope the buyer is prepared to post a video of it - working or not!

I don't see the stator there, so caveat emptor
What do you make of this:

"I have one of the old screw spindles that is compatible with the number of teeth on this stepper."

Someone was mentioning before the importance of the correct stepper motor in addition to the drum with properly positioned screws.