Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Omnibus]

What column of air? Where did you see evidence for such a thing?

Also, you obviously have missed my explanation a couple of pages back. This works just as SMOT does but here we have superposition of same type of conservative fields unlike SMOT. This is a self-sustaining SMOT, if you will. Imagine two rows of steel pieces (screws in this case) which we'll call stations working independent of each other. The peculiarity here that helps is the fact that when one one station moves downhill from the potential maximum it doesn't stop at the potential minimum but proceeds beyond it. If we leave it alone it will back and forth just as a pendulum would do. However if there is another row of stations having its own maximums and minimums which is only mechanically coupled to the first row but not with respect to its response to a magnetic field acting only on it then things change if properly tuned up, Just before the fist station starts to bounce back another station is picks up, being at the maximum of the field acting on it, and the drum instead of going back proceeds in the forward direction. And so on. Thus, there's always a tendency towards equilibrium which is never reached. I already explained that but, as is the rule here, one has to repeat a hundred times the same thing because some people just don't bother to read what is being posted.

I don't think there's anything new in this construction concept and therefore there's nothing patentable about it. What is new is just the scientific analysis but scientific analysis isn't something that can be patented. This frantic desire to patent in this field is just a waste. Patents on perpetuum mobile's cannot withstand a serious scrutiny because all these ideas for perpetuum mobile devices without exception have been around for a long, long time. It very well may be that such devices have already existed but they have been ignored by the powers that be. As they will be ignored today as business ventures. Perpetuum mobile is everything business doesn't want to hear about. Therefore, don't waste your time, money, hopes, dreams etc. on patenting this thing, valid as it is. Just do it and contribute to the progress of society.

I am taking a stab at explaining why it works for xpenzif and no one else.  Column of air seems like the easiest explanation.  If you or someone else ever gets this thing to make two revolutions unassisted, I will gladly eat crow.

As it stands, I understand the concept, I just do not believe that it can work this way.  There is only one force at play.  Replace magnetism with gravity, and set the device on a horizontal axis instead of vertical.  Instead of screws there would be four rows of hills and valleys.  There is no way to extract any extra energy out of that, even if you could place some kind of diagonal weight on top, that rises and falls with no friction and is held in position from slipping horizontally.  It just does not make any sense, and this doesn't either, at least not to me.

Also, you would be surprised at what is patentable.  Most likely, if there is no previous patent for "screws on a drum with some magnets on the side," there should be no problem.  If the applicant does not claim perpetual motion, there should not be a requirement to present a working model, either.

No, lets be serious, there's no column of hot air as there are no Martians driving it. These attempts for an explanation are hot air themselves.

Also, the gravity example isn't analogous to what I said. Read it again.

As for patents, forget it, when push comes to shove none of this will withstand scrutiny. Designs maybe but not patents. Patents is a useless pursuit in this case.

[supersam]

ominibus,

it seems to me the only "hot" air around here is coming from you.  have you given any thought to a better way to use that "hot air than constantly jumping on people that, obviously have an interest in proving exactly what you want.  go to a physics site for that.

if you are using the same retarded mathimatics in your synopsis of the smot ramp as the physics, "experts", then why are you having so much trouble understanding that the loop to "actual" over unity can not be achieved, in and of itself.

you might want to look a little further at some other supposed over unity projects, for a cobination of things that might just work to actually return the ball to the start point.  maybe it will be functional if you combined it with a highly efficient gravity powered device or vice-versa.  until then dude, you can't make it work with "hot air " alone.

lol
sam

[Omnibus]

ominibus,

it seems to me the only "hot" air around here is coming from you.  have you given any thought to a better way to use that "hot air than constantly jumping on people that, obviously have an interest in proving exactly what you want.  go to a physics site for that.

if you are using the same retarded mathimatics in your synopsis of the smot ramp as the physics, "experts", then why are you having so much trouble understanding that the loop to "actual" over unity can not be achieved, in and of itself.

you might want to look a little further at some other supposed over unity projects, for a cobination of things that might just work to actually return the ball to the start point.  maybe it will be functional if you combined it with a highly efficient gravity powered device or vice-versa.  until then dude, you can't make it work with "hot air " alone.

lol
sam

This is obvious crap. You should restrain from cluttering the discussion with useless blabber.

[ken_nyus]

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[Omnibus]

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This was discussed extensively today. See also the reason why this was done.