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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: hydrocontrol on October 18, 2007, 01:44:39 PM
QuoteDo we have a real list with facts?
Eric,
Details are what we are lacking so a good replication is going to be lacking.. Somewhere he stated he thought the screws are 3/4 inch long. Still no details of the screw size like #8, #10, #12, etc.. No details of how many screws going around the outside of the PVC pipe. No details of both horizontal and vertical spacing of screws. He did make a brief mention of the magnets being grade 45 or so he thought. For a grade 45 they are awfully weak for pulling the screwdriver in the video. If they were grade 45 I think he would have had to pry the screwdriver away. I am hoping he comes back with more information and a better video.
If not we can still use the video supplied to try to replicate but that will be more hit and miss. Just from looking at the video I would say they are #12 wood screws with spacing about 1/4 inch horizontal and vertical mounted on a 4 inch PVC pipe. It maybe a 3 1/2 inch PVC pipe. Screw heads appear to ground off on one side up to the shaft then glued to the PVC. Still too much missing information.
I am kinda bothered that he stated that this PVC pipe ran for a night but instead of presenting the PVC design he is now presenting a steel washer design. Why change ? Seems strange to abandon a working design so early in the game if it ran for a night.
Maybe after this weekend we will have more video and more details..

Later,
Tom :).
I agree. @xpenzif should be more forthcoming if his creation is to see the light of day. Otherwise it will sink as many other seemingly working devices sank when their creators were approached for details only to disappear. Also, I' m seeing that various people are giving him advice which doesn't belong to this stage of the development of the idea. I think @xpenzif should learn to be himself and not listen to anything which would distract him from the main goal--establishing of his experiment as legitimate by having independent parties replicate it. I'm saying this in principle. Of course, I don't know what his exact attitude is regarding these matters. Maybe, for instance, he's too busy now and doesn't have the time to chat in this and the youtube forums. Anyway, I think you're quite right, it has to be impressed upon him that he shouldn't abandon a working model and get into a chaotic, unsystematic activity to improve something that hasn't yet been established. It will be very detrimental to the development of this important idea.

CLaNZeR

Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.






Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely :)

Back in a bit.

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Freezer

Quote from: hydrocontrol on October 18, 2007, 11:29:40 AM
Still before I sign up for machine shop time I want to see a better video and some more details. Machine shop time cost $$..
Later,
Tom :)

I wish I got into this stuff back in school..  I had a cnc, mill, vaccum former, table saws, band saws, sanding chambers, and every tool all at my finger tips.  I wonder if the inconsistencies in the screw gap distances cause a acceleration and deceleration which is the mechanism which allows for the effect, just a thought.

Quote from: CLaNZeR on October 18, 2007, 02:30:43 PM
Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.

Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely :)

Back in a bit.


Nice as always.  ;)  Just a suggestion to make sure and glue those screws on well, as the magnets will pull them off if its too close.

erickdt

I'm wondering if one could use the magnet sheets that they sell at home depot etc. to cut out these triangular shapes. This would take care of the problem of the screws eventually becoming magnetized.

Omnibus

Quote from: CLaNZeR on October 18, 2007, 02:30:43 PM
Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.






Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely :)

Back in a bit.


Good luck. Just to mention, did you notice that in the original the heads of the screws are flattened, as we discussed above? Perhaps this won't matter. Let's see. Also, is it me but it seems that the PVC base isn't exactly a cylinder. Also, the magnets aren't aligned quite perfectly. Look at the third from the top. The top magnet seems closer to the screws than the bottom, etc. It's amazing that even such an apparently crude construction turns as nothing else so far does. Torbay's wasn't perfect either but we never saw it in action (except for that propaganda clip where details were smeared, nothing like here).