Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[klicUK]

Thanks @klicUK. Will follow your efforts very closely. Wish you a lot of success.

The keyword, it seems, is "fine-tuning". Setting this in motion meets with the general problems such devices have. This one seems technically somewhat easier to replicate. Think about Torbay's, let alone Finrsud's. Stefan and others remember the times when Torbay came to NYC with his device and wasn't able to demonstrate it. He was in NYC for about a week, desperately trying to restore it in a working condition the way he 's had it in Argentina. He couldn't, unfortunately. Why? Now I kind of understand it. There are these tiny adjustments which may slip from the grasp even of the constructor of the device. The device worked in Argentina, it was disjointed while traveling to NYC where under pressure the constructor wasn't able to restore it. Look at the video we discuss here. A tiny adjustment of the stator magnets got it going. The second effort, however, wasn't successful. Even the third try made the rotor turn halfheartedly. This a tricky thing to reproduce as are all the important scientific discoveries. Therefore, one has to approach the solving of this problem as a scientist, systematically and painstakingly studying and reproducing first the conditions under which the working device exhibited the effect. Those of the participants here who have made PhD's in and experimental discipline (Physics, Chemistry etc.) know exactly what I mean. Sometimes it takes years to reproduce an effect even after spending years sometimes to assemble the experimental setup. Garage inventor, of course, has it's place but not always.

Omnibus:

I've playing with magnets long enough to know that it certainly is true that the slightest adjustment can be the difference in success and failure. I'm getting some interesting results with the second build, hopefully finished later today - when other chores are out of the way. The thing is, xpezif's original doesn't seem to be built at all precisely, and he claims to have builtseveral replications. I'm trying hard to replicate this device, but honestly - my feeling is that it is actually a frictionless breaking system.

[Paul-R]

Great observations Sean, you have a keen eye. Perhaps the creator may show it spinning for say 3 mins...after all he did claim it had run alnight.
Once again well done everyone doing replications...I decided not to this time as i was not convinced there was anything there.
Mark

I don't think we can discount it yet, I don't think anyone here knows just how it works.  I tried bending wire into triangular shapes to feel the pull.
The sticky point seems to move to the rear more with that shape, so I will try and come up with a more refined scale and shape of metal.

This drawing reminds me of the Calloway V Gate:
Paul.
http://www.fdp.nu/triangle/default.asp

[Paul-R]

Hi fast builders!

OK. At least 3 replications that do not work.
Anyway, mine is slowly going on. I have all the stuff now (even the screws  ).

May I attract your attention on the Xpenzif's screws disposition.
(This is my interpretation).
And also on the fact that the rotor seems not to be 'horizontal':

Is he deliberately using two opposing force fields, the magnetic field
and the gravity field?
Paul.

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Paul

Looking at that photo, not only is it "tilted" towards the magnets, but with the "off center", there would also be more "weight" moving down the tilt.  Add to that "heavier, downhill slope" is the pull/attraction of the magnets.

So again I would say a definite "yes", he is using gravity both through the tilt and weight to achieve full rotation.  In my mind this lends "credibility" to the design, as it uses the "lead out theory".

Any replication without the above mentioned "gravity" effecting builds, will not be successful.  It must be off centered and also tilted.

Cheers,
Bruce

[klicUK]

@ Paul

Looking at that photo, not only is it "tilted" towards the magnets, but with the "off center", there would also be more "weight" moving down the tilt.  Add to that "heavier, downhill slope" is the pull/attraction of the magnets.

So again I would say a definite "yes", he is using gravity both through the tilt and weight to achieve full rotation.  In my mind this lends "credibility" to the design, as it uses the "lead out theory".

Any replication without the above mentioned "gravity" effecting builds, will not be successful.  It must be off centered and also tilted.

Cheers,
Bruce

@btentzer: don't know what you mean. Although the rotor (hard drive platter) is mounted off the center of a block, it will still spin in a circle. Any gains made from more weight on the down slope is exactly counter balanced when the same weight travels on the upslope. net gain is exactly zero. As far as I can see, If there is an effect on this device, it can only come from the magnets.