Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Low-Q]

Hey guys and gals,

Here's a concept motor/generator I came up with that I'm building right now.  There are lots of modifications and considerations to creating a useable generator but it's a start. 

The rough idea...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JHb-xJGVUM

Peace,
Will

Nice animation (Except this PC in the hotel reception has Windows NT, and are VERY slow).
I see your idea, and and it has already been built and displayed on youtube - you should try to make one anyway to learn more about magnetism.

Vidar

[Golden Mean]

Hi Vidar,

I did some crude testing of my own with the linear concept (as shown here...  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3r2aZ3llqok )
and it does work.  What happens with the V-gate is that as the first stator reaches the "gate", there are two more that want to get there.  As the second stator reaches the gate, the other two stators are helping pull it through the gate and so on.  The trick is figuring out the precise arrangement of the magnets on both the rotor and the stator to maximize the pull and momentum to keep it spinning and hopefully be able to extract some energy off the spin.  The main problems I've been having are in fabrication.  Without precision tooling equipment, I've found this a challenging endeavour.  Still worth exploring IMO.
Peace,
Will

[Golden Mean]

I see your idea, and and it has already been built and displayed on youtube -

Vidar

Could you please post a link so I can check it out?  Thanks.

Peace,
Will

[ken_nyus]

...The main problems I've been having are in fabrication.  Without precision tooling equipment, I've found this a challenging endeavour.  Still worth exploring IMO.
Peace,
Will

I agree, precision counts in the magnet game, forces are squared with the distance, so small differences in distance can make a big diference in forces, and as Omnibus has pointed out above it is often wrong to assume all magnets in a batch are equal.

We are working blind with magnets, we need a way to see what is happening!

[Omnibus]

...The main problems I've been having are in fabrication.  Without precision tooling equipment, I've found this a challenging endeavour.  Still worth exploring IMO.
Peace,
Will

I agree, precision counts in the magnet game, forces are squared with the distance, so small differences in distance can make a big diference in forces, and as Omnibus has pointed out above it is often wrong to assume all magnets in a batch are equal.

We are working blind with magnets, we need a way to see what is happening!

I thought precision tooling equipment is crucial when I first tried Torbay. A friend who owns a machine shop made it very precisely. Special neos were bought etc. and it still didn't run. One reason, besides the very complicated construction, was the already mentioned unevenness of the magnets used. No matter what you do (I brought them several times to a major company producing magnets for remagnetization) they, although of the same form, still differed substantially in the form of the fields and induction. Like I already said, that seems to be the main problem that plagues the field. Not so much the precise machining as the inherent discrepancies in the magnets. Of all I've seen so far, @xpenzif's idea is the best (and is the only one that has been demonstrated, aside from Finsrud) because this major problem with magnets not matching is radically avoided. Like I said on several occasions, @xpenzif's idea is in fact convenient practical application of SMOT. Also, as I've already pointed out SMOT is the only experiment so far conclusively proving violation of CoE. Therefore, exploring SMOT-like ideas is the right direction. Magnet to magnet interactions seem a dead end at this point. Even people with perpetuum mobile patents based on magnet to magnet interactions such as Fecera haven't actually shown a working device to the US Patent Office, I learned from one of the examiners of that patent. Hope to be proven wrong on that magnet to magnet interaction skepticism.