Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Omnibus]

Hallo to All:
Somehow, nobody mentions here Troy Reed and his "Surge" invention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE
and his patent:
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO9010337&F=0&QPN=WO9010337#

The problem with these constructions is that they have external power supply and therefore it isn't at all straightforward to claim they produce more energy than energy put in. Before all these are accepted constructions such as that of @xpenzif must be verified as real perpetuum mobile's. Therefore, the focus must be on @xpenzif and similar motors rather than on motors which may seem more practical. That said, I have to remind you that violation of CoE has already been proven beyond doubt and that's not what is sougt for now. What the focus should be now is how to produce excess energy continuously without any energy input whatsoever.

To my knowledge the "Surge" does not have any external power supply. Well, maybe only a starter. By the way, You must be very fast guy, since You could find my post, check the links and write the reply within ten minutes from mine.

It has. The starter, as you put it. That's enough to put it into question. Of course, if it is self-sustaining it must be looked into. However, have you heard of any independent verification of its self-sustaining mode? None, correct? Mind you, there are many, many claims such as this one, none of which have found independent verification yet. The latest I visited was also for a similar device, even more interesting than that, having no moving parts. It indeed appeared that the input energy is less than the output but there's still much more to be done to convince the community that it's really so. Like I said, so far, the most interesting device is the SMOT and its modifications by Finsrud and especially by @xpenzif since it is easily demonstrable, has no energy input whatsoever and is obviously self-sustaining. Everything else is more or less hearsay as of today.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Omnibus,

I said, so far, the most interesting device is the SMOT and its modifications by Finsrud and especially by @xpenzif since it is easily demonstrable, has no energy input whatsoever and is obviously self-sustaining. Everything else is more or less hearsay as of today.

I would have thought since no-one to date has replicated xpensif's motor this would still qualify as hearsay.

But who I am I to argue with the first man on earth that has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is energy from nothing in a SMOT

Ave Omnibus, ignorami te salutamus.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

G'day Omnibus,

I said, so far, the most interesting device is the SMOT and its modifications by Finsrud and especially by @xpenzif since it is easily demonstrable, has no energy input whatsoever and is obviously self-sustaining. Everything else is more or less hearsay as of today.

I would have thought since no-one to date has replicated xpensif's motor this would still qualify as hearsay.

But who I am I to argue with the first man on earth that has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is energy from nothing in a SMOT

Ave Omnibus, ignorami te salutamus.

Hans von Lieven

Indeed, @xpenzif's motor is still to be reproduced independently. However, this doesn't help you to become less incompetent. My analysis treats a reproducible experiment and is based on solid Science which, regretfully, is beyond you.

[hansvonlieven]

Ave Omnibus, ignorami te salutamus.


Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

This is your only recourse. Weakness because of lack of arguments and competence. I think Stefan should delete posts such as this because they contribute nothing to the discussion and only demonstrate the personal characteristics of some poor slob no one needs to know about.