Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[hansvonlieven]

@Hans,
I wanted to ask you for a description of this spun silk. I am going to use silk from a pulled apart silk cocoon I just happen to have.    so, it won't matter, but I wondered if this spun silk as you saw it was orderly like cloth and wound around the wire like the modern litz wire probably is (I only saw a pic on the net) or a sort of disorderly matrix of fiber. (the modern equivalent would look like 'remay', if you know what that is.)

I have it all here, I think, so I am off to the kitchen to make this.

Fe-silk-Fe-/-silkCuSilk  hmm may take a while.   

jeanna

The way this was done Jeanna, they took a number of silk threads and, using the wire as a central core platted the silk around it. It looked like a kind of stocking if you pulled a length off the wire. I don't know if they still do it, but the same technique was used using asbestos yarn in electrical circuitry where you had a lot of heat, such as hotplates and electric irons.

Hope this helps

Hans

[Localjoe]

@ Hans and all

I had a technical writer meaning person who edits/writes manuals fun stuff like that evaluate the patent and then i showed her my findings.  She fully agrees that the usage of "practically a self generating induction coil" in stubblefields patent is  to mean "almost" . And that it is deliberately written cryptically.. I showed her an older patent of Tesla's and she was amazed at the vocabulary and detail compared to the Stubblefield patent.I strongly feel 100 % now that  all my findings are completely legit and this information needs to be spread please read this post if you haven't already i even outlined patent line numbers so people could follow along easily. Thanks folks http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.msg74747.html#msg74747
                                                                                                                                                          Joe

Just above the post in the link is an attachment of the patent file in searchable pdf so word searches can be done.

[hansvonlieven]

i think ive solved a crucial mystery..  page me back when you have a little time, thanks again
                                                                                    Joe

G'day Joe, In answer to your mail:

You are starting to catch on as to what this patent of Stubblefield's is all about. He actually describes two devices. Perhaps you remember what I said in one of my first posts on the subject Nov. 18 2007. Here it is in part:

Nathan Stubblefield took out a patent for the earth-battery, except, the patent-office demanded he call it "Earth Battery", Stubblefield wanted to call it "Electro-magnetic Induction Amplifier".  (Source Wikipedia)

This explained a number of things.

I believe what happened is that the USPTO rejected his original application and forced a number of changes. By having to call it a battery he now had to make it look like one in order to get his patent.

This is why there are two contradictory descriptions of the device in the same patent.

He complied with the requests but left the real idea behind the device in place, hence the confusion.

I think the galvanic action is only a small part of what he was doing. On page 68 in my post 1019 you see a diagram of how I think this works without any galvanic action by using a small battery instead. If you really look at it what you have is some kind of a TPU without using a toroid. The iron wire running parallel to the energised copper wire must react along its length to the magnetic field generated by the copper wire. I cannot find any data on similarly wound coils which means we just have to find out for ourselves.

There is a really complex interaction going on between electricity and magnetism in this coil, the implications of which I do not understand at this time.

Hans von Lieven

[jeanna]

Good morning all,
I woke up thinking:

If you really look at it what you have is some kind of a TPU without using a toroid.

Thank you Hans!

The thing I am wondering about now, is if those spheres on top of the beer can (which is surely this doublewound device)  are capacitors?

Is there a historic type of capacitor that is built in spherical shape? (One that we might copy?)

Hans, Thank you for explaining about the cloth surround for the wires. (I can see thousands of little children making the knitted string around the wire using spools with nails and a hook. 
)

My hand got sore last night but it is not hard at all to wrap a 3/4 in wide strip of silk around the copper wire as I wind it next to the iron and down and back. I am on layer 4 now. So, I will continue ... and check back in periodically.

ciao!

jeanna

[hansvonlieven]

The closest thing to a spherical type capacitor is this (quote from a post of mine in single wire experiments)

A Van de Graaf generator is a kind of spherical capacitor.



Hans von Lieven