Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

.....as  you have seen bad placement   can  drain  power from the  core.

As I was typing that    ,  It hit me that there is probably  posative and negative  to this energy too .

Just maybe   you might need to tune    the energy  by  choosing  what kind of rod ( copper ,Iron or carbon ) .........or  inductive matching .
If it was matching inductance that would  explain  the   funny looking   stuff on top of the  spikes in  some of the pictures of  Stubbelfield

gary

Yeah pos and neg. It is what has been going through my thoughts about this thing on the primary.

In the kitchen I was testing with the galvanometer and pushing the needle around in opposite directions using a small battery -2.5v- on the 10's.

After 3 times swinging in one direction then back,  the needle would stick in the opposite position (N or S) and if I reversed the polarity (leads of battery) it would swing to the opposite direction for 3 times then get stuck again.

Over and over.

Sometimes I saw a spark bridging between the terminals and the battery leads when I switched the direction of the leads. In Jim's description just now of the shape ot the wave, I could see the translation of what I was doing into waveforms. (why I asked to see it)

I think NS is very clear that we are to use iron for the "core piece1". When I was boosting the voltage I was adding a line from an outside probe to the copper wire. I only got a little boost from adding a line from an outside probe to the iron wire.

This meant to me that a circuit of cu probe to cu wire of NS coil with the earth as resistor is added to the coil.

By touching this same cu wire directly to the core piece1  the voltage plummeted. So, I said the ground was sucking out the voltage. What I am thinking now is that there was a circuit that was formed from the cu wire to the core piece1 through the ground and away. But in that one spot it went to -38v or something. hmm

I need to sort this out a little more.

matching inductance... explain the funny things on the top...

Could you please explain?

Thanks for your thoughts,

jeanna

[electricme]

hmmm in regards to, am I working on a NS cell, sorry, no, not yet, I have everything except a big enough bolt and the cotton tape.
I found about 20 odd bolts at the dump a couple of years ago and gave the lot of them away to a farmer in this neck of the woods, siiii.

My current project is poking about with copper rods etc etc. "sorry", but don't dispare, I want to make one of those cells.

In my electrical apprenticeship days almost 40 years ago, we used cotton tape to wind around starter motor field coils, cotton tape was also used on Lucas C40 and C45 generator field coils, now there is a supply of copper wire in those coils. hint hint.
Starter motors have very thick copper coils, double hint.
Starter motor solenoids have 2 different size copper coils in them also.

Now here is the good part, cotton tape can be bought on rolls from a ladies lar-de-dooo-da shops, I think it is hemming tape .... not sure, I'm checking this out as I type. AHHH its called bias binding, so the wifie who lives in another town says. (shes crook)

OK I got out my lap top several hours ago and fired it up, and made a start on the software program, so far it is going OK.
I have made 6 levels of entries, if you have 1 layer, thats fine, if you have 3 or more, it will still compute
It will go like this
Enter in the name of the cell or project, enter the bolt size (so you can find it later on in a selectable menu)

Enter in the number of turns of the number of coils counted on the 1st layer in 1 inch, the enter in the length of the wire (after you have removed the coils and measured its length), add in how many 1 inch coils will fit on this 1st layer.

Then go and do the same for as many layers of coils up to 6 layers.
(I could increase this to 12  if need be but we should see how it goes first).
I have to compute the method of division and subtraction for Lbs to Kilos, inches to feet etc etc, so it might be a little while.
mucking around making software keeps me sane ha ha.
At the bottom of the screen will be the computed answers, how much copper or windings in weight or feet etc you need to get to make a NS cell.

It wont cost anything, see there are free things you can pickup lol.

Now, as I don't have a web address, anyone want to put their hand up to have it available on theirs?
I'll send the .exe to them and they can test it out and let me know any improvements to make.

jeanna, to your question, will it work on a mac? I don't know, it is a DOS able program, which means it probably won't work on a mac but I have not tried it as I haven't got a mac, you can try it but I recommend you put it on a PC separate using windows so you don't muck up your own mac setup.

I think I saw a mac to Windows emulation conversion program but not sure, I will do a search shortly.

BTW you use just ARROW keys to move to Wheaver, press Enter key to access and enter in the info on keyboard, to escape, just press ESC, pretty simple to use.

Later on I will make another program to record what the outputs of the NS cells you get, would you like that also?

Gotta go and eat dinner, the skeeters are eating tooo.

Jim

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matching inductance... explain the funny things on the top...

Could you please explain?

Thanks for your thoughts,

jeanna

Jeanna

I probably shouldn't  have  said anything about  the  inductors   ....... it  was part of a flash that hit me as I was typing  up that post .

I don't  really understand it  ...........  All  I understand is  the funny looking  things on top of the  stakes in some of the pictures of  Stubblfield  are  probably coils to tune  the  energy tapped by the stake  to  be a closer match  with the core .  ...... kind of like   a matching  transformer or   SWR matching
Given   Jims  findings with his scope  it could  be  a resonant  circuit  too .


Just had another  flash ................  there is a Tesla patent  with  an elevated    coil and cap ..........  it would have  to be tuned to the  right  frequency .
In  the patent  the cap is a flat plate .

maybe  Jim  can  figure  out the  frequency  with the waveform  on his scope .


I  will have to  spend some time  looking for  the patent  tonight . 


gary


gary

[jeanna]

Jeanna

I probably shouldn't  have  said anything about  the  inductors   ....... it  was part of a flash that hit me as I was typing  up that post .

.....  the funny looking  things on top of the  stakes in some of the pictures of  Stubblfield  are  probably coils...................... it could  be  a resonant  circuit  too .


Just had another  flash ................  there is a Tesla patent 

Please always type the flashes that come in when you're typing. (as you did above. I believe this is where true brilliance is to be found.)

I think that there is a pic of the thing of the patent in the picture of father and son standing next to a tall wooden box. Down by their knees is an array of posts that look to me exactly like the spool on the spike of the patent. but with a globe on the top and a half globe below.

There are also wires that are going from this thing that go toward the earth and dissappear from view.  (Although of course they could be the secondary output wires,) I suspect these are connected to 5,6.

This is where I got the idea that one of these (flash...  or both!) are attached to external distant probes to increase the overall voltage. I am thinking that this is to give better ability to produce a good spark.

I think this thing can produce its own sparks if the tuning is right. [I have often referred to those globes on top of the pics of the NS coils, I think the globes are a capacitor.]

I noticed the other day that the resistance of the wires made the threshold of oscillation higher than what I wanted.

This made me see that the threshold of oscillation is resistance dependent for coils of the size we are making. By adding voltage from outside the coil, there is no need to add many more turns and thus add more resistance in the coil.

but it seems that you are referring to something else when you say weird things on top of the stakes...
If you are looking at a different pic would you please bring it here?

I am looking forward to seeing the tesla patent too. (information/experimentation junky, I am! )

I can also repost a small copy of the one I am referring to. - separately

jeanna

Oh Gary, the programming on a mac is "object oriented" this means the syntax is Subject verb object, which is the reverse of MS programming. so, forget trying to make the two combine. Sun made a bridge for the two with java. more improvements have been made since they did that. That is why I asked if clarion worked with a browser. I like math logic enough that I actually enjoy working out things like this if I must. I am glad you are doing it for the group. What a gift you are providing!

j

[jeanna]

Here is that picture made very small. 
jeanna