Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[electricme]

@ hello all
Joe kindly sent me the stubblefield patient, (thanks Joe), I spent all day yesterday reading it, trying to figure it out.
I became quite overwhelmed with the close spacing of words, and it was very difficult to follow numerals on Figs, so in the end I decided to start from scratch.

I retyped the patient, (shock horror) word for word myself, spacing it into paragraphs, spreading it about, now it is much easier to read and understand.

I then made a 2nd copy of the one I typed out, changing all references to "battery" to CELL (in green), now it became even clearer and much easier to read. I also added some more modern terminology to it with my own interpetration (in blue) on the Stubblefield cell, however the actual patient wording (in black) is still there.

Lastly I made a check sheet, putting the coil numerals 1-16 with an item next to each number.

During this exercise, I think I came across several items, some of you will know, some new to the forum might not understand.

1/ looking at the top of Fig1, there are 2 stubby wires (10), they are shown almost clipped flush with the top of the coil former.
I have seen this done  in older valve radios, in the tuning section  of tuning coils (early Phillips 6 band radios).

Got to thinking, "why", then I read further down, Stubblefield is indicating (not actually stating) they are not connected to anything, to keep the coils as electrodes. I think if anyone connects them, the coil will not resonate. If you put 2 electrodes in a beaker containing an electrolite, then bridge them out, they will not function. It stops the process.
It seems the coil windings (Cu & Ir) have to resonate, to work.

On section 15 to 20 on the patient is where it is stated


2/ The materials which were available at the time are a clue.
Copper wires, in Stubblefield's days, he didn't have access to "varnished" copper wire, he used cotton insulated, copper wires.
If the iron wire was not insulated, so the cotton wire was insulated.
As the cell was intended to be immersed in water or damp soil, then the dampness would have seeped through the cotton insulation, allowing a resonance to take place.

In section 35 to 40 on the 2nd page of the patient.


3/ The patient also indicates that the IRON wire could be insulated with cotton, this also implies to me, that the copper wire could be bare instead. Because, of this, there is an implication, that the copper wire was not varnished, but, bare it's entire length, wound on the cell former.

In section 95-100 on the 1st page of the patient.
This also indicates to me, if anyone winds a (modern varnished copper wire) alongside the bare iron wire, it will not react properly with the iron wire, because the wrong insulation is used. (a victim of time and modern practices)

4/ The power output is proportional to the size of the Stubblefield cell, in other words, the longer, wider the cell is (adding many layers), the more energy is available.

indicated at 5 - 10 on the 2nd page of the patient


5/ Ordinary iron will be magnetic and work, but if a Soft iron core piece is used, it will work better.
Modern transformers have laminated iron cores, specially treated iron is used to soak up as much magnetism as possible to reach saturation, more carbon is added in the making of the iron. (example, Bill's carbon and zinc electrodes in soil perform better)

I think if  we used the soft iron (E-I) pieces, then we would see better results.
I suggest electric stick welder laminations, (you could use tin snips to trim them).

indicated at end of 100 on the 2nd page of the patient


6/ The windings must be wound very tightly next to each other.
We see this in the drawings Fig. 1, 2, 3, 4. the patient says "closely and compactly wound together".
(I know from personal experience only a winding jig will give this)
I have seen some coils wound with a gap between turns, must be tightly wound.
Has anyone ever seen a photograph of Stubblefields workshop, if so please post it here, it will give a clue to his way of doing things.

indicated 100-105 on the 2nd page of the patient

Has anyone been able to come up with better quality photos of the 4 cell drawings as shown on the patient? I want to take a really close up looksee at it, better still, has anyone got a quality photograph of a stubblefield cell they can let me have?
Has anyone un-wound an "original" stubblfield cell, and can email me the turns, size wire and data?
   
So there is my input of the day, if anyone wants to take a look at the "modified" patient, I will email it to you.

Joe, what do you think of the above, and, could you make/start a new thread which asks anyone who has unwound any stubblfield cell, coils, photos even notes to send the info to that thread?

Jim

[jeanna]

forget it

[electricme]

@ jeanna
I stand duefully corrected using the word "cotton" as the insulation medium. but then I havent seen "silk" or "linen" either mentioned in the patient.
I can only surmise what it is from previous posts, and examining photos of Stubblefields equipment, hense my request for anyone to put them on the thread.

When silk or cotton for that matter, is wound on a bear wire, it is done in bi-fillier or tri-fillier fashion, (even higher) several bobbins of silk/cotton is spun around the bare wire as the wire is drawn through a central hole, the speed of the rotating bobbins has to be matched to the speed of the wire being drawn, to keep the width of the insulater 1 layer thick.
The bobbins are similar to overlocker cotton reels in size.
Not impossible but difficult for amateurs to do.

Jeanna, my thinking process has been tuned to cotton as the insulating medium being mostly used by cell constructers, but if someone can front up with some silk covered wire, and where to get it, then well and good, until then, we are stuck with using cotton as the insulation, and I certainly aint gonna be feeding silkworms with mullbery tree leaves to get silk.

I might ring my old tech friend I know out this way, and see what he has to say.


@ all
Aside from cells a moment, I was just speaking to Microsoft in Australia, and have it from the horses mouth, that XP SP3 is to be released on 29th April, via Windows Update, 580megs.
For those using slow old Dialup, these people (like me) are alowed to download from another PC connected to Broadband, then save and burn to a CD, to be installled back at the old PC that has the dial up connection.

Jim

[Pirate88179]

@ Jim:

I guess I always assumed it was cotton insulation in the patent as well.  That is what was used on the wires in those days.  I actually owned a house that had some original wiring in it and it had cotton insulation.  I think it is the perfect insulation for our purposes as it lets the moisture through, and yet maintains electrical isolation.  I think Jeanna tried silk and it did not work as well.  I am not sure about this, she can tell us.  I know some tried plastic screen and that did not work so good.  It is easy for me to wind with the cotton string (cord) and use cotton material wraps between layers.  Joe posted earlier a place to buy the cotton tubing that is made to slide over the wires for stereo applications.  The link is posted way back somewhere. You could do an overunity.com search and it will come up.  I used to have rolls of that but, over the years, it is gone somewhere...lost in one of my moves I guess.

Great news about sp3.  Maybe microsoft is finally realizing that xp is still better than Vista.  People are actually paying a premium to buy new computers loaded with xp as opposed to Vista.  That should tell them something.  I just hope the "update" does not mess up xp.  SP 2 is working very well for me right now.

Bill

[FatBird]

Greetings,  I just discovered your great thread & find it all very interesting.  I notice that you are getting a different meter reading on AC than on DC.

I am wondering if that is due to your Coil TRYING to tap into the AC Aether Vortex (about 100 KHz AC), rather than plain Galvanic DC action.  Here is a way to determine if it is AC:

1.  Make your Coil with insulated wire, NOT bare wire.  Magnet Wire is fine.
2.  Wind the Coil on a non metal core, such as cardboard or plastic.
3.  The larger the diameter (at Least 3" or 7 mm), the HIGHER the Voltage.
     A round cereal box (like Quaker Oats) is great.
4.  Try placing a Plain, Non Polarized capacitor in SERIES between your meter & Coil.
      A Cap will pass AC, but block DC.  A Plain, Non Polarized Cap does NOT have a + or - markings.
5.  Turn your Meter to AC Volts.
6.  Try placing the Coil in different places, such as a hole in the ground, in a plastic bucket of water, etc.
7.  Give it AT LEAST 30 MINUTES in each place to maximize the voltage in each place.

Floyd Sweet just had a rotating Aether Vortex spinning between the 2 flat magnets.  Edwin Gray had it spinning inside his special tube.  Hubbard had it spinning inside his circumference of pulsing electromagnets.  The TESTATICA Device has it spinning inside the two large cans.  SM had it spinning inside sequentially pulsing control coils arranged in a Toroid.  These are just different ways of accomplishing the same thing.

It is entirely possible that your Earth Battery Coils are TRYING to tap into the Aether Vortex Spin?


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