Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

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@ storrie
How you going with your new NS coil, any progress?

jim

[storre]

@ storrie
How you going with your new NS coil, any progress?

jim

I wound it with an additional 12M of 2.1MM wire but still not getting any useable mA and about .7V. Really though, I need to burry it. As an opportune test, I have some guys building a big 2M deep fish pond so when they get to the bottom I will bury it there just to see if depth makes a difference.

[electricme]

@storrie
Hmmm, this sounds interresting, the part about how deep you intend  to bury the coil, I'm very interrested to know the outcome.

I'm in the middle of a huge slack attack right now, when winter thaws me out it will be time for a big tidy up so I can get to my steel working bench to make some jigs to wind a NS coil.

@ bill
I came across a big triple spring re-verb unit, it has the driver coil and a pickup coil, so this time I will see if I can modify it to give any indication of what is coming out of my copper rod setup in the back yard.

Snippit of info, petrol is $1:75 a litre in my neck of the woods, grrrrrr.

@Hans
Going to make a start today on my NS diary stuff. (deep scanning), you should be getting some pages very shortly.

@all
About a month ago, I sent a email to the people who kindly sent me the NS stuff, asking about copyrite etc, haven't heard back from them yet. As most of what I have is already in the public domain I may post only rough copies here so you can see the quality I have to work with.
Hans and I have negated the resting place of the NS info, as he is willing to make it available on his web site, with links straight to it

Thanks Hans

hooroo
jim

[Pirate88179]

@ Jim:

That's a great idea with the reverb unit.  I have one in my amp and it never crossed my mind to do that.  This should be interesting.

@storre:

I still find it hard to believe you are not getting any mA's from your coil.  It looked good to me...wound very well, insulated, etc.  Just wetting the cotton insulation should register some decent mA's.  IF you used iron wire, and IF you used an iron core, and IF you used copper wire, this should produce mA's.  I know you did you these things as you said you did.  Did you test the wire and the core with a magnet to show iron content?  That's the only thing I can think of is if something were mislabeled as I ran into searching for iron wire.  I tested some that was labeled "iron wire" but the magnet said no.  Same thing with "iron" re-bar.  The magnet showed very little iron content.  That is why I went with the iron spike as I was testing many different things in the store with my neo.  That showed the best (actually very good) results as I could hardly pull the magnet off of it.  What I am trying to say here is that, if your meter is ok, and you said you checked it, then the only other things it could be is either a short of some kind, (which I know you most likely did a continuity test) or poor iron content in the wire and/or the core.  Even coils much smaller and less dense than yours were putting out like 10-20 mA's.  I wish my coils looked as good as yours does.  Oh well, you will figure it out.

My guess about the depth of the coil in relation to the ground level would be that it will not change anything.  This is just a guess on my part, I have done no experiments relating to this.  It will be good to see what happens, then we will know.  Best of luck to you.

Bill

[storre]

@bill:

I just checked them with a magnet. Zinc coated iron and iron (possibly galvanized also) core. The both tested out with the magnet so I'm sure they are iron.

Now to where your PI skills really shine I tested continuity and at first it looked fine. I was reading millions of ohms when I tested copper against iron wire but then all of a sudden (still don't know how) the meter started reading practically 0 ohms when testing across copper to iron and even testing with the bolt against either wire. It's completely shorted out and the only thing I can think happened is the individual cotton overlays that go between each layer, did not close completely. Still doesn't explain though how the copper is shorting out since it's completely inclosed in the tubing.

Well I had the idea to use the cotton tubing on the iron wire also to avoid the headache of placing the cotton between the layers so I'm going to rewind this thing and try to do it on a bench so I don't kill my hands again! I know in the patent he says it's preferable not to use tubing on the iron but I think it's not any more insulation than the cotton between the layers which I will not use. At least I will not have any shorting problems. I just tested again and it's showing only .23V. I've been testing this coil daily and it's always showed between .60-.70V so something definitely shorted it this morning. Seems like the damn thing shorted out right in the middle of my continuity tests. So strange!

Now testing again it's showing 10M ohms where it should be! When I connect the meter and switch to VDC I get about .23V Then, without removing the test leads, I switch to ohms and it reads about 14K ohms. If I just remove one of the test leads and immediately reconnect, it reads 1M ohms. If I disconnect and remove again, it shows 10M. If I think switch to VDC and then back to ohms without removing the test leads then it goes back to about 13K ohms.

Is this some meter weirdness or something I don't understand about using it? The meter is a Extech True RMS MM 22-816.