Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

Now that I got the pics up, finally, I will try to answer some of your other points.  Actually, the second pic. was supposed to be the rod but was the circuit but...oh well.

Yes, I read on the Dr. Stiffler topic (I think ) about the batch thing with leds.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Of course, with the quality control in China, or lack there of, there is not telling what I am going to get anyway.

I know how to wire the leds in series, that is not what I meant.  I want to know how to wire the cells in series as I am building another cell next to the first one and I want to get like 3.6 volts or so out of it in series.  It is not like sticking D-cells in a flashlight, I tried it that way and it was a dead short.  I am sure I am doing something wrong because the way I did it would not have even worked with 2 car batteries and I know they can be hooked in series as well.

Thanks for the warning on the larger caps.  I already know that.  Want to know how I know??  Learned the hard way.. ha ha.  A TV technician friend of mine many years ago warned me, too late as it turnes out, to unplug my set overnight before working on it.  He said the caps would discharge overnight.  They did.  (after I did it his way after my shock)  So, I was thinking that these smaller ones would do the same.  Another guy told me this was called "bleed down".  That is why I am amazed that it still has more volts reading on it now than I was getting with the cell.  More experimentation needed.

The guy in the video with the led in the bathroom used only one led.  You can see it in the video near the start.  I think he mispoke himself possibly when he said he was getting 2 amps...maybe 2 milliamps?  I know it is hard when you are the camera man, director, actor and producer as I have mispoken a few times in my vids. I hope he really did get 2 amps.

The small cap I am using came out of a shake flashlight. (you shake it to charge it)  I sacrificed it as it only cost $5 and I also got an led, and a great coil and a very strong neo magnet out of it as well.  Let me know if you have any more questions.  I very much appreciate all of your input. Thanks.

Bill

[jeanna]

I want to make one. I have lots of leds left over from that class and I need some outdoor lights and I'd love to make them with earth batteries and caps. It is too dark too often and my solar path light doesn't glow enough.

OOPS Sorry localjoe. I remember that is your idea. Itsagoodone!

don't worry. I won't make a business out of it. (I already did one business thats enough!)

jeanna

[jeanna]

Let me know if you have any more questions.
Bill

I will have more but I need to eat some dinner first.

I wanted to get this link to you.
http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/superior_radionics.htm
also
http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/earthbattery/

It was here before. I had the experience you had trying to put these earth cells in series. I don't know how one would do it either. One or the other of these pages addresses that you will not be able to add to the voltage by putting them in series. You just get zero. So, you and I both got zero by that so, see if  the ideas of the array might help. Sorry, I need to eat. I will try to find it if you can't now I know there are 2 of us that got zero, I know I am doing this OK.

jeanna

[Artic_Knight]

bill

its hard to predict what the earth will do, it has all the elements we use today in our batteries antennas solar pannels and capaciters. its got bio electrical generators and god knows what else! 

my theory is the earth itself will not make much electricity but will store it well and collect it well. i think that the major influence on our experiments thus far some proven some theory is that the lightning is striking the earth in china and its creating a pulse over here but that our amp meters cannot read it to its fullest extent. how many lightning bolts strike the earth any given moment? LOL yea enough. so i think your capacitor is getting charged by a pulsed dc current from the earth and that our .9 or 1.5 volts at 2 miliamp is just an average. im willing to bet we would see some great stuff in a storm !   

now as for a capacitor. i learned from the web (wiki pedia) its like a bucket with 2 spouts, theres the in spout high on the bucket and it has a flow control to stop the water coming in after it reaches that high inlet spout. then theres the outlet spout low on the bucket, with ac current or pulsed dc, it will be a fluctuating input into the bucket, it gets full it gets half full it gets full it gets half full but because the out is in the bottom of the bucket it remains constant.

whats the capacitor rated? 22 farad?  it should say on it. and i believe the voltage out is what ever the voltage in.

now for the pair (capacitor and led)  since we have a 1.5 v in on the capacitor we get that out. its not the full 1.7 so its not a fully bright led.  with the capacitor our variable amps is now constant. before it was averageing too low to be a full load for the led but now with the capacitor its a full load and its much brighter.  hope this helps if not check wiki pedia they got a really good article!

on a side note my wife is being very resistant twards my experiments, looks like im going to have to please the gods with some house work to get what i want 

[jeanna]

now for the pair (capacitor and led)  since we have a 1.5 v in on the capacitor we get that out. its not the full 1.7 so its not a fully bright led.  with the capacitor our variable amps is now constant. before it was averageing too low to be a full load for the led but now with the capacitor its a full load and its much brighter.  hope this helps if not check wiki pedia they got a really good article!

The thing is Arctic_Knight that the led should not even begin to light unless there is 1.7v.. Try it. put a led between the ends of a AA battery and see. the only times you can buy a led flashlight or candle or whatever that has only 1,   1.5v battery is when the engineer has added a chip that makes the led flash so fast that the eye misses it.

It is possible that this is what is happening with Bill's circuit. but I don't know. (I mean flashing fast)  Given that a diode is a one way entity and a cap is one way in and same way out, I can't get how the charge is circling around to keep the diode lit.

Another thing is that a capacitor has a bizarre speed of filling and emptying. There is a curve that describes each function. It fills up to 66% full very quickly then continues to fill slower and slower for EVER... Then The same curve happens when it empties 66% right away then lots of time to finish emptying. The engineers use this and have most of the activity happening in the first part of the curve both ways to approximate something smooth enough to be imperceptable.

Wow, I didn't realize I had learned so much in that class!
Hope it helps.

jeanna