Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

I really did enjoy your site, Hans
I gotta go help a friend
jeanna

[Bruce_TPU]

Hey guys,

I think that I have hit upon a little something!   

Using my carbon rod north, as the positive electrode, and then I used my galvanized spike as the negative electrode.  .7 mv at .123 ma.

Next, I took more spikes, going from East to West (This is the only way it gives decent results!) at a distance of about 8" each.  I wired all of the spikes in series to the original neutral spike.  EVERY time I added a spike, the ma's increased.  I got up to .302 ma. 

It is not the amperage amount that is interesting, (very small compared to others) but it is the percentage of increase that is amazing, and that this is nothing at all like wiring batteries in parallel.

@ Bill

If you took another of your coils and connected it in series to your neutral line, Your ma's would again increase dramatically.  I would bet anything on that, after seeing what I have seen this afternoon.

Nothing like the sweet smell of progress!  Small incremental increases will add up.

I remember you did something like this, Bill with another electrode, also.  I think this is an important principle to remember.   

Cheers,

Bruce

[Pirate88179]

@ Bruce:

Great job!  I did, as you have done by tieing in your electrodes which yeilds better mA.  I believe this is a case for the increased surface area = more mA.  My "coil" arrangement most likely did nothing more than in crease surface area.  I have read of your work with the tpu and I respect your knowledge on coils. Mine is next to non-existant.  Having said that, I want to propose that, possibly, Stubblefield was using coils of two dissimilar metals in an effort to increase surface area, ie amps, in as small a package as possible.  There still remains the effect of ac on the coils which also may be coming into play...I don't know at this point.

What I am trying to say is, if I could learn how to wrap 2 metals together in a coil arrangement ala Stubblefield, AND learn what to do with the 4 ends of the wires from the 2 coils, I would bet that, even if we just used materials that he had used, we would see increases in our power output.  So, the coils MAY not be to up ac current at all, maybe just a way to "fool" the earth into thinking it has very large annodes and cathodes stuck into it.  What do you think?  Essentially, I think this is all we have been doing by connecting our + electrodes together and our - electrodes together.  Making them act as larger electrodes.

I also did east west with my multiple electrodes, not out of any scientific reasoning, but purely due to area constrictions here at the little garden.  There still maybe an ac component to all of this which we can exploit using your tpu devices.  but, for now, I am convinced that surface area = amps.

@ Jeanna:

Thank you for your kind words. I am not disappointed in my results although I had hoped for a bigger leap than this.  But, it is still heading in the correct direction.  I told a friend of mine about my results and he said..."Wow, at this rate, in 2 years you might be able to light 5 leds."  I detected a note of sarcasm in his voice when he said this.  I guess he was not impressed. The work continues.  I can't wait to see what Freezer's cells will do. He has a supirior design in my opinion.  If we can replicate it with mag. and carbon, look out.

Bill

[jeanna]

the increased surface area = more mA.  My "coil" arrangement most likely did nothing more than in crease surface area.

What I am trying to say is, if I could learn how to wrap 2 metals together in a coil arrangement ala Stubblefield, AND learn what to do with the 4 ends of the wires from the 2 coils, I would bet that, even if we just used materials that he had used, we would see increases in our power output.

  but, for now, I am convinced that surface area = amps.

@ Jeanna:

Thank you for your kind words. I am not disappointed in my results although I had hoped for a bigger leap than this.  But, it is still heading in the correct direction.  I told a friend of mine about my results and he said..."Wow, at this rate, in 2 years you might be able to light 5 leds."  I detected a note of sarcasm in his voice when he said this.  I guess he was not impressed. The work continues.  I can't wait to see what Freezer's cells will do. He has a supirior design in my opinion.  If we can replicate it with mag. and carbon, look out.

Bill

I think you are correct about surface area = amps. I will just have to dig some deep holes and put these electrodes down into them. And I will make them 30" apart and I will do it as a series of 4 since I have 4 carbon rods.

The glacier dropped a heap of 2" rocks which later got infiltrated with soil. It is almost as hard as digging hardpan, and to pound  a stake into this especially a breakable one like carbon, just isn't possible. So, since I have tried everything else without much success, I am now willing to dig up 18 inches of rocks then strain them then put back soil without rocks. I have been trying to avoid this, but oh well, now's the time.

I feel much more confident about winding with 2 wires just from having gone through the steps to make a joule thief. Radio shak has the transistor for 69 c. and some lousy magnets but cheap and it worked. I recommend it mostly because there is some sense to it and where the ehds go etc. now that my hands have done it once.

Oh, and my opinion about friends who don't understand the sheer joy of creating is "It is their loss" 

Tomorrow is another day, and it will be a perfect day to do some good digging. So say I!

jeanna

[Freezer]

@ Bruce, yes carbon and magnesium would probably yield the most.  I went with copper, and galvanized sheet cause the store near my house sells it.  I think you could probably find some carbon and magnesium on the net in sheet form.  That new water cell from Japan uses carbon and mag sheets.  They are selling these AA sized batterys which can yield in the 500mA range.

@Hans, I will test that and see what happens.  I read over stubblefields patent again, and what I was getting is that he used a voltaic coupler to increase the power, or thats what I'm interpreting it as.  I tried hooking a quick voltaic stack of copper and galavanized sheet in this config shown here, and it killed the mA, and the voltage increased 2 fold from about .8v to 1.7v, and ac volts were 3.1.  I also read that stubblefield used iron wire with copper wire, and states that the copper creates a magnetic field, where you can add a additional coil to ride up against this field.


Stubblefields patent.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Q19NAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA4&dq=600457#PPA4,M1
From the patent, it seems he used copper wire, copper coils, iron wire, iron rod, water and soil.

@Bill, good job, seems like it can only get better.  You have a nice area to do these experiments, as I have either grass or weeds to get through.  Did you try putting the electrodes near trees?  I read somewhere stubblefield used his setup near a tree, and others have said they gain power when closer to trees.  I still trying to understand what stubblefield did to increase power more than a normal cell.  As Bruce stated, these cells don't act like normal batteries, which is interesting.