Are there any running magnet motors?

[Omnibus]

I don`t think that there is incompetent people in this forum. Remember that none of us, absolutely NOBODY, is an expert or "professional" in the field of OU/FE/PM, else we would have many working devices to enjoy. No way, no working/usable device to power our home/car/appliances/etc. yet.
In my opinion, all opinions are valid. Take what you think is good or useful for you and discard what is not. We are all here to learn, to share, to exchange ideas (good and bad ones).
I`ve seen many threads in this forum with almost 100 pages and countless messages of people insulting and discrediting each other ideas/thinkings, discussing if OU/FE/PM is possible or not, messages completely off topic. ?Is this way how we plan to "save the humanity"?. I think NOT.
I personally enjoy when I see here a new idea/plan/link but is very sad (and a waste of time) when I see threads which appears to be written by two ladies who don`t know what an orgasm is.

Sincerely yours
Noble Wolf

I disagree. Not all opinions are valid in a scientific discussion. Opinions expressing invalid notions (e.g. the ones you already correctly objected to) aren't valid scientifically, neither are they useful. If we don't resort to playing with words we should reject the opinions that clutter the thread and contribute nothing to the fruitful discussion.

[shruggedatlas]

I don`t think that there is incompetent people in this forum. Remember that none of us, absolutely NOBODY, is an expert or "professional" in the field of OU/FE/PM, else we would have many working devices to enjoy. No way, no working/usable device to power our home/car/appliances/etc. yet.
In my opinion, all opinions are valid. Take what you think is good or useful for you and discard what is not. We are all here to learn, to share, to exchange ideas (good and bad ones).
I`ve seen many threads in this forum with almost 100 pages and countless messages of people insulting and discrediting each other ideas/thinkings, discussing if OU/FE/PM is possible or not, messages completely off topic. ?Is this way how we plan to "save the humanity"?. I think NOT.
I personally enjoy when I see here a new idea/plan/link but is very sad (and a waste of time) when I see threads which appears to be written by two ladies who don`t know what an orgasm is.

Sincerely yours
Noble Wolf

Intentionally or unintentionally, you have hit upon a major problem with alternative forums such as this.  The problem is that free energy is not possible under current scientific theory.  And, mind you, mainstream science is not something to discard lightly.  Many very smart and very highly-educated people have spent their lives observing how things work.  These people know more than we do, and they do not bother to read this board.

What I am trying to get it is that in order to propose that free energy is possible, you boldly have to set aside Conservation of Energy and the other laws that apply.  And when you are brave enough to do that, you are basically saying that anything is possible - the laws of physics as we know them are flawed!  We have to create new laws!

This is all very cavalier and noble, but the problem that you quickly run into is that even when discussing competing theories with proponents of free energy, you have great difficulties in discarding dead ends.  Because we are in this community that thinks anything is possible, how can anything be seen as worthless?  Applying the laws of physics only gets you so far, because you simply have to discard them at some point if you want to hold out hope for free energy.  So there you have your problem, and there is no good answer, but my feeling is that Omnibus is right and you really have to prune the bad theories and get them out of the way quickly, or alot of people will waste alot of time.  The key is how to figure out what is a bad theory.  No current theory leads to an overunity device, so which theory is best?  Maybe the one that is least underunity?

I hope I have made myself understood, because my head is starting to hurt from thinking about this.

[Omnibus]

@shruggedatlas,

I have to remind you once more that I have shown conclusively that CoE can be violated which opens the road for working perpetuum mobile's. I haven't seen any so far (with the exception of Finsrud's) but this I relate only to the engineering difficulties such devices pose to their constructors. I'm seeing some promising proposals, though. I will also pursue further, when I'm back, the patent problem we discussed in another thread (right now I'm in London on my way to NYC). Of course, my analysis isn't based on 'anything goes' mentality, often demonstrating elementary incompetence, which isn't uncommon in forums such as this, but is based on sound and rigorous scientific arguments.

[gaby de wilde]

Anyway, it's very easy to build a permanent magnet motor sir. The first thing you need is the idea that effort is strongly related to results. The second thing you need is the awareness that the closer you get to results the more people will try to derail your project. So, you must take those debunker posts like compliments. They do have to have 100% negative previous postings or they do not count as real debunkers. 

I have shown conclusively that CoE can be violated

OH, I thought we still didn't get any proof with the CoE hypothesis? Asking around the Internet in various physics groups I have to conclude there is not one person alive today who can make sense of Noetherens graduation paper. I also rather painfully discovered that those people referred to as knowledgeable scientists are mostly imbeciles who cant be bothered to have a conversation using acceptable human gramar and specially common decency.

Well? How does this CoE thing work? Can anyone here please explain the exact way this hypothesis became a theory. I need to see the proof of this before I can accept any of it. If one cant rationalise a wild guess like CoE then what makes them think they can try pass it off as the truth? After such gross lie I really do not need to look at any math to establish an actuate picture of the persons reasoning abilities? do I?

"You just have to accept it as facts"

Will make me laugh in your face..... telling me what I "have to do" now? wow!! How funny!

"you have to respect scientists"

Accomplishes exactly the opposite for me. How dare people tell me what to respect! What gross fraudulent behaviour do we have here? Respect is EARNED, you don't get it by telling people to respect you. ROFL!! That's called a lie and liars don't earn any respect.

99% of the current professors are equal to sponges. They had to sponge up so much information it's awfully obvious they didn't think about any of it. With very few exceptions it's questionable if they even have thinking abilities after showing such incredible blind absorption skills. It's a job reserved for human sponges we all know how incredibly hard it is. You tend to get distracted by your own thoughts. So that leads me to believe those who can accomplish such enormous work don't have much original thoughts (if any). They are so proud of all the discoveries they claim make up physics. But those discoveries where never made by human sponges. The discoveries where all made by thinking, resourceful, adventurous people. All we have to do is compare Tesla's patents to those of Einstein and we all know enough.

I'm using the word hypothesis to describe CoE but that really doesn't do any justice to the topic. The scientific method requires that one can test a hypothesis, CoE is not even worthy of the hypothesis label !

I conclude,
I'm researching perpetual motion. You'd better respect that. Perpetual motion devices always work, you have to take it on faith! You must!  ROFL!!!

The comedy value is tremendous...... to bad it means the end of the world.......

[rotorhead]

Gaby, my compliments to you. One of your better posts.