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Overunity Machines Forum



Are there any running magnet motors?

Started by laserman, October 25, 2007, 08:39:03 PM

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laserman

There is no evidence that the perendev motor was started by a motor on  the unseen side.  Or should I say there is no evidence that the motor spun up by itself.  There are stops and starts on the video.  Brady has for surly read the comments accusing him of using a motor to spin it up.  If it starts on its own and i were him, i would take 4 minutes out of my life and make and post a new video of machine that will eliminate these comments.  To rebuild mine to recently discovered information, i would have to re make all three rotors providing a 50 percent overlap of magnets.  my rotor magnets are equally spaced and do not overlap.  I would have to also providing some kind of shielding on the attraction side of rotor mags.  I am not trying to change the world, I just want a running pmm on my desk to amuse myself.  So i am now looking into the bowman design.  I guess i missed the loop on Torbay that omnibus suggested and ill look into that.  If some one is willing to take over this perendev pmm i have we can discuss.  I will listen and take into consideration to any suggestions that others may have.

Omnibus

Quote from: laserman on October 30, 2007, 01:42:53 PM
There is no evidence that the perendev motor was started by a motor on  the unseen side.  Or should I say there is no evidence that the motor spun up by itself.  There are stops and starts on the video.  Brady has for surly read the comments accusing him of using a motor to spin it up.  If it starts on its own and i were him, i would take 4 minutes out of my life and make and post a new video of machine that will eliminate these comments.  To rebuild mine to recently discovered information, i would have to re make all three rotors providing a 50 percent overlap of magnets.  my rotor magnets are equally spaced and do not overlap.  I would have to also providing some kind of shielding on the attraction side of rotor mags.  I am not trying to change the world, I just want a running pmm on my desk to amuse myself.  So i am now looking into the bowman design.  I guess i missed the loop on Torbay that omnibus suggested and ill look into that.  If some one is willing to take over this perendev pmm i have we can discuss.  I will listen and take into consideration to any suggestions that others may have.
See, the thing is, Brady couldn't care less to convince anybody. I experienced the same attitude with Finsrud. As for your effort, I think you're doing a great job but you should somehow change ways and get exactly into Mike Brady's rut (forgive the joke). Please try to study carefully what Brady has done and replicate it as closely as possible. Also, try to speak with him. I've spoken with him on several occasions and I'm finding him to be a very pleasant person. Unfortunately, as it seems, there are others, probably lawyers, who are preventing him from being more open. You may try to talk with him, though, and see what his reaction will be. The input of the original constructor is very important in such cases, needless to say.

laserman

Quote from: vvkarelin on October 30, 2007, 09:09:45 AM
Dear laserman!

Now I am going to make a Perendev replica, too. In Russia we have Godin-Roschin mashine that use Searl-effect, but have no schemes, how to build it. Can you provide me with the schemes you used creating your replica of Perendev?

i can send you a corel file or an eps file of design if you would like.

ken_nyus

Quote from: Omnibus on October 29, 2007, 09:49:49 PM
There's more than meets the eye with these pmm's. On the face of it they look symmetric and perfectly manufactured. The fields that act, though, the fields our eyes can't see, are usually not in such a great shape. If you measure the magnetic field around each one of your ostensibly equal in shape magnets you'll notice they aren't at all the same. Adjustment of the magnetic fields is the key issue here ...

How can we open our eyes and see what we are working with here?

I agree this is a major problem when working with magnet motors, the complete blindness of it.


Omnibus

Quote from: ken_nyus on October 30, 2007, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on October 29, 2007, 09:49:49 PM
There's more than meets the eye with these pmm's. On the face of it they look symmetric and perfectly manufactured. The fields that act, though, the fields our eyes can't see, are usually not in such a great shape. If you measure the magnetic field around each one of your ostensibly equal in shape magnets you'll notice they aren't at all the same. Adjustment of the magnetic fields is the key issue here ...

How can we open our eyes and see what we are working with here?

I agree this is a major problem when working with magnet motors, the complete blindness of it.


That's a question I'm asking myself for quite a while (I read somewhere that some birds have the ability to see the magnetic fields, if this is any consolation). The thing to do now is to follow exactly the recipes of someone like @xpenzif or the Lego Perpetuum Mobile constructor, that is, of those who seem to have it working and try to reproduce it exactly as theirs first trying to put our inventiveness aside for a while.