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Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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kames

Quote from: flash on December 17, 2007, 06:20:53 AM
Kames not trying to be offensive but your test is nothing amazing. Simply put, its similar to compressing a spring and letting it go. The magnetic field has established before the wire has moved away and gives it an acceleration which overshoots the balance point naturally. I can't see anything other than this. Credit for trying though.


Hi Flash,

There is a difference when comparing with a spring. The force acting upon a spring when released is not constant. When the spring is released it moves only under internal forces and oscillates around an equilibrium point with equal amplitude/energy. In other words, if you look at the spring oscillation like a sine wave, the surface/integral under ?positive? waves (above zero) will be equal the surface/integral under ?negative? waves (below zero).
With my test, if you take an integral of all the oscillations from one side of the equilibrium point and compare them with another side, they are not equal even for a naked eye. Plus, the force acting upon a wire is very much constant compared with a spring. I don?t disconnect a battery, the power is applied all the time and the applied force is not internal, it is external. If it were a little doubtful with the first video because the applied force wasn?t constant because of the way the magnet was located, in the second video, the force is very much constant, ie, has very little deviation from the original value. Does the spring have the same?
I am not offended at all. I just don?t want to go into an arguing anymore. There is further development about this test. I just don?t want to post it here at least for now.

Thanks,

Kames.

flash

I assume you are talking about the constant deviation once you have energised the circuit? I see this as a form of harmonic from the asynchronous oscillator you've setup with the 555 timer.

Not wanting to argue, but trying to see if there is more than what i initially saw.

kames

Hi Flash,

I am sorry I didn?t post a reply right after I saw your question. Unfortunately, other things take precedence.

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I assume you are talking about the constant deviation once you have energised the circuit?

I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. Correct me if I am wrong.
There are multiple ways to look at this test. I don?t really understand what you mean by constant deviation. It is unbalanced deviation around an equilibrium point. DC current in the wire is just a bias and should not create unbalanced movement/oscillation around the equilibrium point. Actually I managed to capture F(forward)EMF in this wire. It was unexpectedly high. The FEMF was going up to 18V. I cannot get the same with a standard coil. Does it have any meaning? I think it does. Try to create a substitution circuit for FEMF with momentary voltages/potentials, assuming that the internal impedance of the battery is very low or zero. It just won?t fit for FEMF. However, it does fit perfectly for BEMF, which is not a case in this test.

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I see this as a form of harmonic from the asynchronous oscillator you've setup with the 555 timer.

Actually none of the videos have 555 timer in it. Initially it was tested with 555 timer but it is not in the videos. In the videos I use a manual switch. Obviously, there are a lot of high order harmonics in the fast send off pulse. But all of them should not exceed the initial energy put in or create unbalanced movement/oscillation by conventional meaning.

Thanks,

Kames.

turbo

simple experiments  :)
electronflow in diffrent directions in a single wire.
or coils (from diffrent materials)

M.

Grumpy

Fold a wire in half and the electrons flow the same direction. 

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