Single Wire Tests

[turbo]

Oh no!!

Our waves are wrong  we are going the wrong way....
My my my

[hansvonlieven]

Again what Erfinder says is correct.

Much of our misunderstanding of waves is based on how we measure these things today. This is where in my view science has taken a wrong turn.

In the old days these phenomena were investigated with devices like manometric flames, vibration microscopes, sensitive flames, resonators and so forth. By necessity these devices operate in a three dimensional space and the observations made by Chladni, Lissajous, Keely, Helmholtz, Fourier and so on were based on wave propagation in a three dimensional continuum.

We no longer do this. We use oscilloscopes to study waves, totally forgetting that we are looking at a two dimensional ANALOGY of the phenomenon.

An oscilloscope trace, as useful as it is, gives us the characteristics of ONE VECTOR ONLY of a wave.

There is much more to waves than an oscilloscope trace can reveal. The sooner we realise this the better off we will all be.

Hans von Lieven

[Grumpy]

yup...

[Moab]

Very nice guys. Finally, Finally some real thinking going on here. Its been a good day!

Grumpy, Erfinder, Hans, Your all geniuses! Now if we could get Dollards .02 in these pages it would be a history makeing day.

                                            .02 .M.

[Grumpy]

I mentioned Dollard - even posted a PDF of his "Reasearch Notes".

Funny how when everyone get's on a roll - it just stops.

It ain't Beer-30 yet!

Edit:  What were we talkin' about? Mention of beer just blew me ot of the water...