Meyer's Resonant Charging Circuit Analysed

[AhuraMazda]

There are different ways to wire a bifilar coil depending on what you want to achieve with it. According to Tesla, if constructed carefully and wired correctly, it can be made to act as a tuned LC cct by utilising the capacitance between each coil of wire. Once we apply a frequency at which the capacitive reactance between the coils is equal to the inductive reactance produced by the coils, we have exactly equal current flowing through both. However, at this resonant frequency the current through the inductor will be 180 degrees out of phase with the current through the capacitor.  Hence, the net current drawn by the cct is '0'.  The resistance then of the cct is in theory infinite as would be the voltage.  So, Tesla's bifilar coil in this configuration is effectively a parallel tuned LC circuit employing the capacitance between the coils rather than another physical component. Very clever.

Also according to Tesla, in this configuration the coils can hold thousands of time more charge than a standard inductor can.  So we can produce massive voltages from this bifilar coil.  We now potentially have... great potential!

Farrah Day

This show is not over yet. I have had this thought burning in my head for a long time. How do I make a Tesla pancake coil for which XL=XC?

AM

[aussepom]

Hi faraday we here is a reply I tried to post it the other day but my connection went down

Re: Meyer's Resonant Charging Circuit Analysed
? Reply #49 on: December 19, 2007, 09:02:31 PM ?

I'm on a steep learning curve just trying to get to grips with the science involved at present.

So you may be a young unit student??  Hard to judge any ones age or ability on these forums.


Be awhile before I'm attempting to run an ICE with my wfc! No doubt you'll see me in the news when I'm motoring around town in a large 4WD powered by my wfc... don't hold your breath tho! 

No I will not, I do have the power figures to go with that 120lts a min requires, 20 of Cameron's new 30 plate units at a flow rate of 6 lts per min, this is at calculated 85% efficiency.
They draw 10 amps each at 60V   200X60 = 12,000watts  12kW.
So that?s why we are looking into of trying to improve it some how???


Noticed Spankmes brief post which reminds me of something I've been meaning to ask. Why does everyone use the abbreviation HHO when talking about the gas output from a wfc or electrolyser? Bit of a misnomer this. Surely it should be H2, O2 or more correctly balanced, 2H2, O2.

I do not know others have even given it there own name, Peter Lowery for one and there are others, I just use Hydroxcy. Because it is not fully separated it is still loosely bound, that?s why it will not mix the air in your manifold as recombine, it can and it will 'flash, bang, implode' given the right conditions, as many have found out. Well that?s in my opinion.   

One thing I'm sure we won't be getting is monatomic hydrogen and oxygen!  Not really important, but it's just been bugging me 
No you won't monatomic can be obtained under special conditions, it has life span of a very small fraction of a second, if it is in the close proximity to oxygen it will recombine giving off the same amount of energy that it took to break it apart.

Ausse, your 180 litres per min for a 2000cc engine, was that using a 4% hydrogen mix calculation in the normal air intake?

The test was done by an engineer and some helpers, I was given most of the important info to put on my special spreadsheet programme to obtain other info such as the Btu and calculate the energy LHV value etc. it can also calculate different mixes of other fuels for the energy content.
Info that I obtained the other day after talking to the engineer, it was a calculated mix of air and Hydroxcy, on a 198cc gen set running at about 2,000 RPM with a flow rate of 2lts per min of Hydroxcy. I do not have the air value he is keeping that to himself for the present time.   
Ok will that help
aussepom

[oystla]

Hi, just noticed the thread.

A few comments;

1. A diode has also a capacitance value in reverse. This means that this is a CLC circuit, and YES it resonates between the "capacitors", where the diode in reverse is the first capacitor and the water cell is the second, with the coil inbetween.

Farrah, you are right that the water will have a leakage current. This only means that the water capacitor will loose some of the charge, and that the resonance will dissipate faster the less recistanse the water has.

The water capacitor equals in electrical terms a capacitor with a resistor in bypass.

So the pulse frequency that should be used to feed the circuit can easily be calculated if the capacitance of diode and water cell is known + the inductance of the coil.

2. Meyer stated a diode type in his patent with a maximum allowable revers voltage of 1200 Volts. This means that the water capacitor must have plates or tubes with close enough proximity to reduce the breakdown voltage to below 1200 volts, or else the diode will be destroyed.

3. What is achieved in my opinion is avalanche breakdown of the water. The avalanche breakdown will break the water melocules into H2/O2 gas. To close the "ionic" channel in the water created by the avalanche breakdown, a second coil was introduced in the curcuit. This coil build up a revers voltage during the breakdown, which closes the ionic channel and prevents all charge to be lost from the water capacitor and thereby keep a minimum, voltage over the cell as Meyer stated.

[Farrah Day]

Oystla

I think I should point out that in no way is a diode a capacitor. A diode will not charge up or hold a charge, it is simply a device that with allow current flow in one direction and block it in the other.  All ther diode does in Meyer's cct is stop the wfc discharging back through the inductor to the supply.

Very hard to calculate the pulse frequency required unless you know what you want it to do exactly, and I'm not sure anyone does as water won't resonate until its hit by microwaves.

Resonance, I believe, as I've said before, is just a Meyer, misnomer. The cct can't resonate as a tuned cct in a radio would, the electronics are wrong.

[AhuraMazda]

I think Meyer used the tubes for a specific reason and not just to look cool.
Also I believe the circuit has been altered in the patent not to reveal his secret.