Meyer's Resonant Charging Circuit Analysed

[Farrah Day]

Hi Garfield

Yes, the simulation went off the scale once I hit the resonant frequency, 5 Kilovolts pp!

Did a quick simulation on the figures you provided:  That is a 10nF capacitor and an inductor with (I assume that is 2.5 milli, not Mega Henries) and a resistance of 42 ohms.

The simulation gives me around 600 volts pp at 30KHz.

But as mentioned previously, simulators tend to use ideal components and do not always take into consideration all the loses in a practical cct.

[dryadaibatic]

 I think  we have all lost sight of the forest for the trees.  It appears to me that the resonance is occurring in the tubes not is the cct! Stan Meyers worked on this experiment for several years and you can be sure he researched all of the previous patents. Resonating the tubes is probably why he settled  on this type of design instead of flat plates.
It was reported that the tubular type cells ring when the best production is achieved. Now where it is Acoustic or RF resonance or both,  I think the tubes and the proper design of the cell are the key. Research some of John Keely's work in this area to understand my thinking.

DAB

[Dogs]

This subject has been very informative and interesting.

I have done some experiments along this line.
Please check out the latest link at this index: http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=66

I am trying to get HHO production using HV and low amperage.
Preferably below .5 amps with 1 cell.

I'm not super fluent with electronics. And I appreciate any suggestions and comments.

-Dogs.

[Farrah Day]

Hi Dogs

Checked out your work on the other forum. Some good stuff. Hopefully I'll be comparing notes soon.

It's just a shame that muppet, 'Hydrocars' has decided to contaminate your thread with his utter garbage - he hasn't got the foggiest idea of what he's talking about!  Hope you don't take anything he says to heart. I think his sole purpose is to disrupt and undermine the credibility of anyone that posts anything useful.

Look forward to following your progress.

[Garfield]

Dogs:

Keep up the excellent work.  I noticed you trying to make a hv diode using several in series.
You should try connecting a 100k resistor across each diode as this will equalize the voltage drops across each one  to improve  it's performance.  This worked quite well in the regular ac circuits, but this is  an entirely different ball game.
    Also regarding the bottom portion of your wave form, I noticed from your schematic that you didn't make the  ground connection at the junction of  one of the secondary coils & charging chokes.
    Right now I'm in the slow process of conditioning my cell which is only a single one consisting of a 2" inside a 2.25" with 1-1.5 mm spacing.
     Got Lawton's pwm all built and working but haven't connected it to the cell yet.
I'd really like to replicate that step charging wave you got.

Garfield