Harmonic Oscillating Power Electric generator video

[Jin356b]

  Come on guys, this is a scientific forum, not a cat fight on who is right and who is lying! 

Kator1 and Freedomfuel are right to question the validity of this project, but they were pretty harsh in expressing their opinions.

BushWacker: As I'm sure you know, many people have been decieved by projects such as these, so you will naturally encounter more skepticism than usual.

Just about everything has been said about the validity of several statements made by BushWacker. Therefore, no more discussions on that topic should be necessary. Personally, I haven't placed any orders for materials yet, because I haven't seen enough proof that HOPE is as good as BushWacker says. Does this mean that I'm going to bash, criticize, and spread mistrust about him? No, of course not! Instead of doing this, I would recommend trying to help BushWacker out. This is the best way to see if HOPE will work or not. Isn't this forum supposed to be used to present and develope theories and ideas?

In the future, let our posts contain more constructive criticism, than accusations(implied or direct).

I hope this forum can continue to be a place to share information, and develope ideas for the HOPE generator.

Now that thats been said, onto more important matters...

I was reading over the final wiring configuration in steps 15 and 16 of the tutorial, and found it to be very confusing the first time through. I re-read it several times and drew up a little sketch of what I got out of the tutorial. BushWacker: Would you be able to verify if this is the correct wiring configuration for the 6 smaller spools? Also, do the gaps between the various screws affect the operation of the unit, or is this still something to be tested?

BushWacker: Hope the "Engineering Department" finds some good improvements and can create some good output circuitry. If they can, then you might be able to create a closed system. Now that would be a good video!

Have fun,
Jin

[BushWacker]

Thank You Jin! (:

    Now there is wisdom!  I agree wholeheartedly with your view on this all, and if we try to be more constructive rather than destructive we may just see some positive results. I'm not trying to sell anyone anything and only attempting to participate in a community where a great many others are trying to find answers to our energy problems. I could go on and on as you have probably noticed but, I will spare you this time, lol. It's just that I am very passionate about getting out of our current energy nightmare.

Jin, the art work you have done is beautiful although the wiring is somewhat off a little. The larger exterior coils on the output coils should connect directly to the smaller external coils. Please Remember that this was only the very first unit that I had built and that things will most likely change as we find better ways of doing things. For instance, one of our forum members recommended that we use double wound coils which according to Tesla will absorb much more radiant energy coming from the core. Also, the second unit that I built was made with different gauge wire on all of the coils and the external coils do not pick up nearly the amount of energy that the first unit did. I also wound the 1st stage primary coils with an extra 200 wraps which was insulated and seperate from the first 300 wraps. This may be the reason that the second unit was nearly twice as powerful as the first unit I built. It seems that different measures may have to be taken for each unit depending on the gauge wire used, core size, the material which makes up the core, etc.., etc.. . I believe that this is because a HOPE unit needs to be tuned to resonate a certain way to achieve the highest output potential. I think its kind of like when you tap on a glass with water in it. If you add or remove some of the water or mass the tone changes. With the HOPE this will also change the output potential and/or optimum operating frequency range. I am pasting the wiring configuration which represents the first/original unit. However, as I have said this will only be the case for this exact design using the exact materials and instructions given to reproduce the first/original unit. If a different gauge wire or different core is used things will not work the same. Jin you are very wise to wait a while before spending any of your money on this. I've tried to tell everyone that there is a great deal of work and research that needs to be done yet before we get everything figured out, but some people simply don't get it. I should not have given in to all of the people who were bugging me to hurry up and post the instructions for the original HOPE Generator because it is causing a lot of problems. My advice would be to wait until we are able to nail everything down and find out the optimum design for this kind of technology. I don't even know if I should post anymore information at all until this has been accomplished so that people don't confuse everything I say. Anyway, thanks again Jin. Blessed are the peacemakers.

Best Regards,

Jim

[BushWacker]

   For anyone truely interested in trying to understand how and why the HOPE Generator can function and produce more energy than is put into the system please take a look at the links which I am pasting below. Even though it seems it would be quite obvious that there appear to be "Piezo Stacks" IE: stacks of piezo crystals visable in the photo's and video's of Steven Marks "Ring of Power" some have decided to ignore this component and assume they know how Marks device works. I can tell you without very little doubt that they are way off in their assumptions. I am reasonably convinced that "Harmonic Resonance" plays a large part in the initial functioning of Steven Marks device's. I believe that "Phase Conjugation" is also a factor, and that "Back EM Flux" produced by the collapsing of induced EM fields is an additional factor as well. Now if you consider more than what these guys seem to know about anything you may very well be able to understand the certain similarities of which I refered to in relation to Steven Marks "Ring of Power" device. If the gold/brass colored cylinders in the center portion/area of Marks's device are not in fact "Piezo Stacks" then I would appreciate someone telling me what they are? If the device functions in the mannor and by the means that Freedomfuel is leading people to believe then I will personally appoligize. However I assure you that I am not assuming all things and have actually had a great deal of hands on experience with such things rather than merely theorizing everything. I do not assume that I know all the answers to the universe, and anyone who does restricts them self to extremely limited knowledge. All I ask is that people do the math and research and the experiments before drawing rediculous conclusions. Opinions are fine and everyone should have the right to their own opinion. However whether it is based on reality or fantasy can make a big difference in finding the truth. Freedom Fuel does have one thing right and so I feel I should give him/her credit for that. There is a rotating EM field associated with Marks's device. There is also a vortex like effect present. I have never denied this but there is in fact much more to it all than is being presumed by some. I would like to see someone here besides myself produce working alternative energy devices. That is afterall why I agreed to join this forum in the first place. Please take a look at the few links which I am pasting below for anyone who wants to understand how harmonic resonance plays any part in electrical engineering and/or physics. Anyone who has read any considerable information about Tesla should know but as long as our educators continue to teach half truths and refuse to recognize the major flaws in Maxwellean theory there is going to be a lot of confusion even among some of the best engineers.

Best Regards All,

Jim
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Concerning over-unity
and ZPE related ... GIF file, uses Tesla's theory of resonant frequencies
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1756.shtml

Resonance
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/linguistics/russell/138/sec4/resonanc.htm

Higher order harmonic resonance of electrons with electromagnetic propagation
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0032-1028/13/11/004

Wave propagation perpendicular to the magnetic field
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures/node86.html

Fundamental and Harmonics
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/funhar.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/oscdr2.html#c5

Studies of electron heating and multiply charged ion production in an electron cyclotron resonance plasma
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0032-1028/18/2/001

Understanding Harmonics
http://www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/design_center/Design_Tips/Harmonics/Harmonics.shtm

Power Factor Correction and Harmonic Resonance: A Volatile Mix
http://www.ecmweb.com/powerquality/electric_power_factor_correction_3/

[Freedomfuel]

I do not wish to shoot someone down if they are sincerely mistaken but Bushwaker has made such fantastic claims for his device that one cannot help question his sincerity or grasp of reality.  For instance he wrote on 4th October ?The current input to output ratios of the HOPE Generator are more than 600 to 1 at the moment.?  On 27th June he wrote ?When a certain level of volume is reached the unit immediately jumps up to at least 1000VAC and 2 amps minimum?.  To claim a 2 kW output is so far removed from any margin of error one could expect from a MEG type device that it naturally arouses skepticism.

The use of neon tubes to demonstrate the device?s capabilities also seems odd to me.  There could be some anomaly at work here because everyone knows that neon tubes can be lit without wires.  So far he has failed to provide convincing evidence that it can power incandescent bulbs despite being requested to do so.  His excuse for not doing so was stated in these words written 7th November ?I have said on several occasions that I am NOT able to light standard incandescent bulbs yet due to the nature of the type of energy coming from this device?.  Yet he contradicts himself on 7th October when he wrote ?I have also recently plugged a typical 120vAC to 12vDC converter into the HOPE and tuned the audio frequency to both a 60Hz square wave and a sine wave to see if I could run a small DC motor guess what? The HOPE has no problem lighting xenon bulbs as well?.  No information was provided about the rating of the DC motor or xenon bulb.  In fact both TH Moray and Ed Gray could light incandescent bulbs in their demonstrations of devices that outputted ?cold electricity?.  Here is a quote from Gaston Burridge?s article about the TH Moray device at  http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/fate1956.htm which confirms that it is possible to light incandescent bulbs with ?cold electricity?:

?This current will light ordinary incandescent light bulbs. The light which comes from these bulbs is called "pure white on the blue side, not on the yellow side as light given off when the same bulbs are lighted with commercial currents."

?Radiant energy will heat electric flat irons and other electrical heating devices. It is claimed heating capacities are reached much more quickly with radiant energy than with commercial currents, and are considerably hotter than when powered with ordinary electric energy?.

Another odd thing about BushWacker?s presentation of his device is the claim that the input is sound, not AC.  I wish someone would explain to me how a sine wave signal from the output of a sound card is not AC.  Does he mean that the device only works when audio frequencies of AC are used?

The Gen3 plans are equally misleading.  No information is provided about the direction the coils should be wound in relation to each other.  In one of his posts he stated that the direction of the windings was unimportant as the device worked equally well whichever way the coils were wound.  This is something I find hard to believe.

The diagrams show the same topology as the MEG tested by Naudin except that there are four input coils instead of two.  The top LH and bottom RH coils are connected in series with each other and the AC input.  The top RH, bottom LH and output coils are connected in series with each other with the output being taken from the output coils.  No explanation has been provided for this peculiar arrangement of the connections to the coils or for the addition of six small coils outside the perimetre of the device.

The so called ?audio? input is wired in a way that does not make sense.  There are four wires from the audio output of the source.  The signal wires of each channel are connected to the same locations as the AC input.  However, the earth wires of the stereo audio source are connected to a phone jack and nothing is plugged into the jack during normal operation as far as I can see.  This means that if the signals from the two stereo channels are equal in amplitude and in phase there would be no current supplied to the input of the HOPE device.  It is this in particular that makes me think that the whole thing is a hoax.

Finally the plans do not offer a testing protocol so they cannot be considered a repeatable scientific experiment.  All we have a various fantastic and contradictory statements about the device?s performance in BushWacker?s posts.

[BushWacker]

Hi Freedomfuel,

    I understand your skeptisizm and what you percieve as condradictory statements that I have made however I believe that it is a matter of misunderstanding and perhaps poor communication on my part that has lead you to this deduction. I have tried many times to post to this forum but most of the time I have had a great deal of trouble doing this. I suggest that if you have questions or would like certain statements clarified that you write to me directly and ask me so that there is no further confusion. I can see your logic and rational in relation to many things but I assure you that I have not made 1 false claim or statement as far as I can see. I know this because I have tried to be as truthful and accurate in my reports as my time has allowed. I agree that there needs to be more thorough data however please understand that it has been only a matter of months since the initial discovery. I am in an extremely akward situation and have been disabled now for 11 years total. My physical restrictions and problems make it very difficult to operate at full capacity around the clock 24/7 and my financial resources are absolutely 0. The U.S., government has made certain that I would not be granted disability even though every doctor and every examination has proven otherwise. You may want to believe that I am a liar and that nothing I say is true however I believe that if you would ask me to clarify what you percieve as contradictory that I could clear up the misunderstandings and confusion. I simply do not have the time for petty arguments with everyone who wants to challenge my integrity and there are more important things to do with my time. As I see it I am better off using my time more constructively especially since I have limited time to spend when I am feeling well enough to do anything. I am in the condition that I am in because of trying to be a nice guy in the first place. It is obvious to me now that my naive belief that anyone would appreciate a nice guy was only the result of false teaching by my parents and society. Even so, I believe that the issues involved with the whole energy debacle are more important than mine or anyone else's personal views and/or opinions. That is why I have posted what information I have on this forum in hopes that someone might be able to use the information in their own research. I've got the HOPE technologies covered Freedomfuel so don't worry about whether I'm telling the truth or lying or whatever. As the saying goes "The proof is in the pudding". I've got the pudding on the stove now but you may want to wait for it to cool down a bit before judging whether you like it or not. As I see it the more people working in as many areas of research as possible the more likely we all are to see some eventual positive change in the way we all live. I also believe as you do that Mr. Marks device is authentic although I believe that I have a better understanding as to why it works and how. I've tried to point out some things which are not widely known or where certain connections have been overlooked but I cannot spend my entire time teaching class to those who have not done all of their homework. Your skeptisizm is good but try not to have to much of it. To much of anything can have a negative impact on a person. I probably can't place all the fault on you for the misunderstandings or misconceptions but I am not perfect either. I'm sure that if you ask me to clarify something that I will be able to do this. The current HOPE unit is in the hands of an extremely qualified EE and so I am hoping that we will be able to give verified documentation on more of the technical aspects that so many have been asking for. Please try to remember that Steven Marks device has been out there for nearly a decade while my discovery with the HOPE generator is only a few months old. I make no direct claims of free energy concerning the HOPE as far as I can recall however I may have stated that several engineers believe that it is showing OU. Also, 1000vAC at 2amps does not equal 2kW as you implied that I stated and it never will no matter who says that. Please read what I post more thoroughly and I believe you will find that you are missing a lot and then perhaps mixing it up in your own imagination.

Cheers,

BushWacker