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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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Schpankme

Quote from: plengo on February 02, 2008, 09:21:23 PM
... I can conclude this one experiment ... does not produce any OU ... - Fausto.

Fausto,

Excellent study.  I'd be interested in knowing if your Circuit can re-charge batteries.

- Schpankme

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plengo

@Schpankme
that's the million dollar question. What I have observed on my circuit is that the battery fluctuates back and forth until it just run down. Now, one of my devices has a 6v left and started at 9.17v (or around that). Somehow the 6v is not enough anylonger to light up the LED very brightly, but a new battery at 6v would. So somehow the battery "energy" has changed ( I know it is craizy what I am saying, but I can not think of something else to explain that).

The same is happening with my second running device which shows the current (see some pictures of previous posts) being used by the LEDs and it is now about less than 0.1ma and the LEDs are still lit. Very faintly but still there. The battery voltage is around 5v and I simply can not make, with this battery, the circuit to light the LEDs more brightly than it is. A new battery of 5v would light them up very bright. So I am really puzzled.

Aside from all that, I dont think this is really charging the batteries up but it is not working as normal either. I did an experiment in parallel to this one using just a battery and LEDs and the battery simply ran down to 1v and that was it.

I tested to see if these LEDs I am using generate energy under strong light (light a solar cell) and it did not. I do see a relationship in the brightness of the LEDS and the size of the coil. Bigger the coil, brighter and the LEDs are but they all run down in an equivalent manner.

I think these LEDs have some unique properties that helps to this behavior which older LEDs don't.

I which a lot more people would build this babies and let them run in the corner of a room and see how long it will take for them to go down and how they go down.

Fausto.

EMdevices

Thank you for those experiments Fausto, sorry to see the lights go out.

These white LEDs are so efficient.Ã,  I got a pair recently and was amazed they lit up from 6 volts with a 1M ohm resistor in series,Ã,  that's close to 5 uAmps, wow.Ã, 

So, pulling very little power to light an effiecient LED, will make a battery last a long time.

To further extend the battery life, the LED can be Pulsed,Ã,  and to the eye it will seem like its continuous lighting (make sure frequency is high enough).Ã,  My bike light does that, and it has lasted for years now with moderate use in the evenings.  Your experiment does the same, pulsing the LEDs fast enough so the eye can't tell the difference.

Regarding batteries,Ã, Ã,  a 6V charged vs a 6V discharged battery is quite obvious when you try to draw current from it, so that should not surprise you.Ã,  Even some what discharged batteries will still have enough current sourcing capacity.Ã,  But when the battery can't even light an LED, you know it's hosedÃ, !!Ã,  LOLÃ, Ã,  :D

EM

turbo

Hey EM what did become of your micro tpu?
If you ask me these things are just LC noise fiters....you will find them in any power supply.
They look exactly the same too.
Offcoure they have to be placed inside the collector otherwise they would respond to all the magnetic and mind blowing hash radio outside the ring.
He swipes with magnets just to let us think these things have to do something with the RRFF or RMF.
I have just finished my new tube power supply and it utilizes 6 of these things.
Ive started with orange drops and a .47 filter on to orange drops and a .33 filter on to more orange drops and a .22 filter and then on to the the SS bridge with orange drops and from there on to the 4 plates of two 5u4's in paralell to the power caps  ;D

M.