Meyer type WFC - from design and fabrication to test and development.

[pcmd]

Farrah,

I agree that the boundaries of Electronics, Chemistry and Physics are being crossed.  I would really be helpful if we could recruit some professional chemists and physicist's from some colleges to help answer some of the questions we all have.  This could make for a interesting  thesis for some students.   

Kator,

I was wondering has anyone sent a sample (conditioned plate) to a lab for a chemical analysis?  Is everyone certain the the white coating is a precipitate from the electrolyte solution or is it something else?  I read another document I have and if stated that soaking the flat plate electrodes in a Potassium Hydroxide solution for a couple days" would condition electrode, another method mentioned was to condition the electrodes by repeated short periods of electrolysis. 
I wonder what the chemical composition of the skin layer is?

Tac,

I understand that the frequency of the oscillation plays an important role in the charging effect and as I have not built my test unit either I am only stating what I know to be true (from books).  The L/C output section of the WFC cct could not resonate due to the diode installed as the waveform would be clipped.

In Dave Lawton's circuit the diode was installed to protect the MOSFET and is in parallel with the input to the transformers primary winding.

Excerpt from Website:
Signal diodes are also used with relays to protect transistors and integrated circuits from the brief high voltage produced when the relay coil is switched off. See Diode link below.

I am not sure but one could possibly generate some physical oscillations or in this case possibly reverberation of the Cathode and Anode by tuning the frequency injected to the resonant or a fundamental frequency of the electrodes.  I suppose one could strike the cathodes and or anodes monitor the frequency with an oscilloscope. I agree with Farrah that matching resonant frequencies between the electrodes may be possible but could prove to be difficult. Also by inserting the rubber spacers in between the Cath / Anode the resonant frequency would be dampened.  Its like placing and rubber washer on a tuning fork.  You might get a little tone but is would not reverberate very long.

Some Links
L / C resonance
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_6/3.html

Diodes
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/diode.htm
section on small signal is applicable



Keep up the great work

PCMD

[Farrah Day]

PC

Remember that the Lawton cct produces pulsed dc directly at its output, therefore no blocking diode is required. Meyers cct uses a blocking diode because he was producing dc pulses from an ac input. The diode in Lawtons cct does indeed protect the mosfet, but his cct does not employ a transformer as such. He is experimenting with bifilar wound inductors in an attempt to improve energy efficiency.  Looks quite promising from the read up. For anyone that has not seen this, here are the links:

http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Water_Fuel_Cell

After my recent electrolyte experiments, I'm 99% sure that it's calcium hydroxide deposited on the electrode, formed by the reaction of calcium carbonate in the solution.  Google calcium carbonate and you will find the reaction in water gives calcium hydroxide.

[pcmd]

Farrah,

To elaborate on my last post.


I am sorry I forgot to state in my reply to Tac I was referring to fig 1.1 (see Below) of  the Meyer voltage intensifier circuit. 

>>The L/C output section of the WFC cct could not resonate due to the diode installed,  as the waveform would be clipped.

Also My comments about the Lawton cct based on the 3rd schematic in D14.pdf  that showed the 1n1007  Diode in parallel with the primary winding the biflar inductor.  I seems to me to be transformer since he has matched 100 turns of 22 AWG wire around a ferrite core.  I wonder if he is going to use this to step up the voltage in the future?  It seems a logical path forward from my point of view.

Thanks for the clarification about the calcium hydroxide. 

PCMD

[Farrah Day]

Hi PC

It's not a transformer in the schematic, and if you look closer you'll find that the diode is not actually in parallel with it.
Neither is it there to up the voltage or isolate the cell. What it is, is a Tesla-like bifilar wound inductor. 

Depending on how it is connected, bifilar wound inductors are said, by Tesla, to be able to store many times the energy of standard inductors.  They can also be connected in such a way as to negate their inductance altogether.  In sensitive ccts, some low value wire-wound resistors that would otherwise provide high inductive reactance at certain frequencies are bifilar wound in order to negate the self-inductance and just leave the very low resistance of the wire itself. 

Lawton has wired them as per Tesla, and apparently sees spikes of many kilovolts across his cell from this arrangement. I believe he is still experimenting and at the time was as mystified as the rest of us as to what exactly was occuring.  He may have made more progress by now, but, like most people that seem to make advances, he's gone silent and not made an appearance on the forums for a long time.

Hope this helps.

[Praktik]

My results were 200 LPH (Liter per hour) for 12-18 watts, or 16 LPH per watt
Ravi's results were 2.74 LPH per watt

Hi UncleFester,

great work with very interesting results !

Please answer this questions :

1. the circuit which was used ? Is it from here ? http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf?
2. How about posting  any photo of your small cell with 6 tubes ?
3. can you explain the fundamental news in your electrolysis ?

Regards

Praktik