What exactly is the problem with these devices?

[Roen Hayden]

I have been doing some research into PMMs for about a year now.  I have been reading watching other peoples creations and sometimes I wonder what they were thinking when they built it.  So far the best devience I have seen is the one Sterling D. Allan created.  So my question is what is problem with these devices?  What is the one thing that keeps them from becoming main stream?  I?m 18 years old I sometime in the future plan on building my own.  I think that one day this could work.

Thanks

[Koen1]

I don't think there is one clear thing that keeps OU devices from going mainstream, but there are several.

The most important is of course: failure to replicate. If one person has built an OU device but nobody manages to replicate it, there is no confirmation that the device actually works and that is is not a fluke. There's tons of ideas, but only a relatively small part actually pass the reality check, and of those very few to none are ever replicated and prove to be OU.
Second is of course the continuous antagonism, ridicule, and suppression by the majority of "established" scientists. If your R&D brainiacs tell you device X is not worth looking into because everybody knows OU is impossible, then you're not going to invest in it, are you?
And then of course there are the other established interests; the energy market is one of if not the largest in the world, with more power and influence in sociopolitical and industrial developments than most of us would care to know. If you can force people to pay much higher prices by pushing the essential energy supply into a shortage and price-increase spiral, then of course you are going to do so and thereby increase your own influence in everyday life and systems. So you have more power, more money, more control, and people become more and more dependant on you. Then why would you go and kill your own business by giving the consumer cheaper energy solutions? He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones, after all.
There are undoubtedly a few other interests playing along, but in general it still comes down to: greed, arrogance, and misundertanding. I think

[Roen Hayden]

I see that for looking into OU as a whole, but I wanted to know what the major problem with these devices is. Is it the way one arranges the magnets?  And I have also seen were they just slow down and stop what causes this exactly?

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Roen and all,

Keely said once in his writings (about 120 years ago) "No arrangement of magnets can ever be so graduated as to induce rotation"

Perhaps he was right.

Keely understood magnetism perhaps more than anyone before or after him. He managed to make non-magnetic materials magnetic by subjecting them to a sonic stream using acoustic resonators only. He also managed to take the magnetism out of very strong magnets by subjecting them to the same type of energy.

This has not been replicated to date but at the time was witnessed by a great many people, including eminent scientists.

Hans von Lieven

[Koen1]

Hmmm well problem with Keely is that not much is actually known about his actual tech...
And claims like "he understood magnetism better than anyone before or after" are also made of Tesla for example...
Of course it may be that Keely did understand it better. But he didn't manage to convey that understanding very well.
And it may be that Keely had the 'secret' to free energy. but he didn't explain it, there is no actual legacy of designs we can replicate and study.

Anyway, Roen, in most devices the problem is simply that there is an imbalance in the magnetic fields which does cause the rotor to move, but only for a short period of time untill the device has found its lowest balanced energy state, and then it will stop. Some devices start with a "magnetic spring effect" which cause them to spin quite a bit, but in the end entropy wins and the energy is lost in mechanical friction and magnetic feedback. Other machines use a certain reservoir of energy such as a capacitor to aid their rotation, but when the energy reservoir is empty they also stop moving.
If you can break the symmetry of the laws of nature somehow, and somehow get a permanent off-balance system which does not use input energy to remain off-balance, then you could make one spin... Why does the mini-romag generator work, spin itself, and produce minute ouput, but not an upscaled version?
Good question.