nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !

[Magluvin]

Hey Thing

Nice vid. ;]

Will that rig work if turned on its side? Just to show that there truly isnt any imbalance on that rotor. It is a tiny, weeny bit off balance. Turned on its side would eliminate that factor, at the speed of your tests here.

So is that a shield on the rotor mag, and a nut? Or just nuts?  ;] 

Also, you do have a shield around the perimeter of the stationary mag also? If so, the stationary plate you are anchoring the magnet to, is it necessary that the plate be magnetic, or is it the shielding alone and the mounting plate can be, say plastic?

Thanks for showing this. Looks good.  I gotta run out for a bit, but I will try some things later today. 

Mags

[Thing]

Hi Mag
What you mean *Turned on its side would ...* i dont understand so mutsh english, littlebit explain pleas,  in the rotor i have both side half moon shielding thats means half magnet is shielded half is not , nuts i putted because imbalance, to get rotor bTurned on its side would alanced,  so it not balanced well as you see when i took stator magnet away with ferrite ring, as you can see that side of rotor where is ferrite ring is littlebit heavier than other side with half moon shieldings and nuts thats mean if i get better balancing of rotor then pulling force is more better than now. Yes i tried without metal plate in stator an as i remember right then reaction was not so good, my goal is the tuned that setup so far that i get minimum counter pulling for the rotor and maximum out pulling when its moving near stator, then i want to made 3+3 stator rings with ferrite rings and in rotor i let it be the half moon shieldings with metal tape, then its have to start rotating continusly, ...

[Magluvin]

Hey Thing

Sorry.  What Im saying is, turn the whole setup 90 degrees so the rotor turns like a record player. Like a roulette wheel. ;] Like a compass.  Instead of like a clock, or the wheel of a bicycle.

This way gravity wont have an affect on the imbalance if the rotor shaft(axle) is perfectly verticle. If instead, your rotor was a nice balanced wheel, using some nice ball bearings from a hobby shop(RC car section has a nice assortment), your wheel can spin very easily, and have less stopping resistance for the magnets to work against. Losses.

Also, once your rotor spins balanced and freely, the impulse that I see in your vid , you may only need 2 rotor magnets with the 1 stationary magnet to keep it going.

Here is a vid I did on decreasing resistance in ball bearing assemblies. ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTfFIetYPY

I have 2 vids after that showing a run down of a rotor from 1200 rpms down to a stop. Took over 14min.  The last few min, it seems like it will never end.  ;]
Just some ideas for you. Once you have a nice rotor to work with also with some added weight, to act a a flywheel, things should roll smoothly. ;]

So are you saying that the nut is not part of the shielding, and it is only a weight to balance the rotor?

Mags

[NerzhDishual]

Hi Experimenters,

An half baked (and not yet tested) idea about magnetic motors.

I played with magnetic motors.

With a good bearing (out of, for example, an old VCR (Video Cassette Recording))
a sufficient balanced -with sufficient inertial- wheel, few ideas and a bunch of neo magnets
(BTW), you should (as I was) be able to build a "thing" that seems to crave/desire to self run...

Unfortunately#1 you will experiment this nasty "sticking point" (conservative force).
Yes, you can  overcome it by slightly hand moving your "stator magnet".
If you are "rhythmical" enough in your hand pushes you will see that you rotor
speed is increasing. But this ain't no job.
You have just invented any hand driven Perpetual Motion device.
Please consult the attached tiny vid about the first Minato device.
Can you see the Minato's hand pushes?

Fortunately#1 you can replace this hand push by any -just in time- electrically pulsed
kinda electro magnet.

Unfortunately#2 you will experiment this nasty "Lenz Law" which is another version
of Newton Third law (Action Vs Reaction, bla bla).

Fortunately#2 some experiments seems to show that this Lenz Law could be
"avoided" just by using another 'Law' (something like: in a toroidal coil the magnetic
field is confined in the tore). I'm not a Scientist.
You can consult: http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm

When the "Output" does not 'interfere' with the Input. This is a "clue" of OU.
Just a clue.

Gwella gourhemennou a-berz
Yann

[Thing]

Hi Mags

Now i understand and soon i will test it with 90* and put the vid here, this was good choice of graphite lube, i was looking something for this problem, i used in my setup little bearings you see them in next vid but they are  not the best.
I used nuts because they was in the my table and that was easy choice to balanced the rotor, but they are still magnetically influences with magnet, it means that they still shielding too but that was not what i m wanted this is just happening unfortunately or fortunately i think thats was cool an i'm happy for that result, because it gets hope to run this thing no matter what elses think, let them peck the nose forwards

Thing