joe cell

[Farrah Day]

Rab

I can tell you why I think a 1.5 volt battery won't drain. This is because it does not provide enough voltage to initiate electrolysis and so no current will flow, hence no battery current drain.

White compound definately has dielectric properties. What it is and exactly how it enhances the operation of a wfc is more of a mystery.

[raburgeson]

My new stock just arrived. I ordered schedule 10, I' and 2" diameters and schedule 5, 3"and 4" diameters. I got schelude 40, 1" and 2" diameters and schedule 80, 3" and 4" diameters. This will work fine for my experiments however, if I was trying to run a auto with these I would be in trouble. The weight would be self destructive on the heavily pot holed roads I drive on. It may be wise for me to purchase kits from now on.

I hope to take the mystical approach away from this device. Horizontally it looks like a electron tube. Not a vacuum tube but a water tube. Notice the negitive is connected to the bottom and the positive is connected to the top. this is very important to the function of the cell. Now look at the water as a very low resistance semi-conductor. Suddenly this simple device isn't so simple anymore. I hope some of the older members jump in on this conversation that have a lot of experience with tubes and tube circiuts.

As electrons are drawn away from the surface of the tubes by the water there is a minute drop of voltage in the lenght of the cathode and anode. This is also reflected in the neutral plates. Imagine the neutral plates being electron imbalanced the lenth of the cylinder, inside and out. Apply some very basic theory to this, like charges attract, opposite charges repel. And from lead acid batteries, ions in a fluid are free to move to electrons. This makes the simple device get very complicated.

1 more theory to look at the bump theory which I support for the way electrons move in a conductor. This makes me back away from the standard explanation on how a capacitor works. The 2 explanations just don't work together. Look at the capacitor's plates as a bunch of thin slices off of a wire. Each is a short lenght of conductor, why does the capacitor hold a charge? The electron should bump through to the ion charged side. There has to be a barrier in the center of the plate. There has to be a barrier in the center of walls of the cylinders of the Joe Cell too. This should allow for some amazing things such as a low voltage skin effect and a sort of rail gun for electrons. Also a possibility of alfa radiation so from now on as a precaution I will wear gloves and a clear face shield around an uninclosed Joe Cell. If you know someone well versed in tube design in here could you get him to look at the cell's design. I'm a little to young to really qualify and I'm not afraid to admit it. One thing I can tell you for certain though is this cell is not the result of and accident, the construction is simple but the theory is not. It makes me think a very top rate think tank is behind it's developement.

[jikwan]

keep going rab
lot of people monitoring this
your onto something

[raburgeson]

I've been a little slow getting up. The pipe is much rougher than thinner tubing. I got it together after finally getting it polished enough and had it producing. Now I've torn it apart and I'm slamming it back together with Nylon insulation instead of the Ebonite used on the first try. I believe you get a better reaction with 1/8 inch thick material than you do with 1/4 inch. My first ones had .082 walls and seemed to work better than the present configuration. A pics with Nylon freshly installed. Still going back together. Light is just to strong to get a really good picture. Need the strong light for another experiment that's going on in the other room. Because of the weight of the pieces the insulation is really pressed in tight, it malforms a bit.

[ramset]

YOU have my ear  thanx for bringing this mysterious device to this Forum and experimenting   Chet