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"Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?

Started by bourne, December 16, 2007, 11:07:06 AM

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oouthere

To comment on the rotoverter...yes it appears to be o/u but the power cannot be extracted.  My unit was at best about 1,100 watts in and 3,600 watts out.  But, if you tried to run light bulbs with it, it consumed the 1,100 watts plus the additional load as well.  That's why it disappeared, everyone came to realize this or else everyone of us that tried would be running our house on these units.

Rich

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Borg my personal feeling  is  this sight is just chock full of great people working every day experimenting beyond the dogma of existing science   the atmosphere here is RIPE     harvest cannot be far off   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

b0rg13

Quote from: oouthere on March 12, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
To comment on the rotoverter...yes it appears to be o/u but the power cannot be extracted.  My unit was at best about 1,100 watts in and 3,600 watts out.  But, if you tried to run light bulbs with it, it consumed the 1,100 watts plus the additional load as well.  That's why it disappeared, everyone came to realize this or else everyone of us that tried would be running our house on these units.

Rich

thnx for the feedback,what a bummer, it looked so good!.
if you want to get out of the rat race,you have to let go of the cheese.

esaruoho

Quote from: b0rg13 on March 12, 2008, 11:04:22 PMive seen some really GOOD stuff here too but for some reason when something looks really good and about %95 of it is in the open and ready to go people seem to run away and bury there head in the sand and its all forgottin about. ???like the rotoverter for EG. it looks really good and as soon as it starts to look like its making some progress it seems to turn into thin air., i cant help but thik from all the ideas and stuff here on OU.com that there must be some simple thing that works some where!, well id like to think so any way.

heya.. i think you might find the recent discussions on energeticforums, with peter lindemann weighing in (on page 2, 3 & 4) on the  resonance recovery, or reactive power recovery systems,  interesting.
it is truly the best conversation thread that i've ever seen, you'll see. check it.
sorry, just had to add.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1507-roto-verter.html

btw, i*ve been archiving free energy documentaries, and if you want any new ones, it really is getting to having to buy about i dont know, 30$ worth of a dvd  to have a new one (check energy from the vacuum series for one). there is not an abundance of dvds available on these things, and when people do take the time to produce them, they have to charge for the postage, burning costs/printing costs and the filming as usual. and theres not that much interest.
aagain i refer to this: if ever there is a list of things that are for sale from thrapp, on dvd, i'm game to get as many of them as i can, because this is simply too interesting to walk away from.
ideally, anything that leads one to the direction of further produced videos on things related to moray and stubblefield and keely would be unbelievably interesting. if ste/ste do end up intreviewing  thrapp, but it seems that theres an attitude problem or something, or that thrapp doesnt receive something during the first few moments of the interview  to convince him that ste/ste mean business, then i'll just get questions together from a few of my friends directly and record the conversation after arranging it.
these are, after all, personalities  that we are dealing with, it could be that theres a polarizing effect  from the moment  ste/ste say anything and thrapp responds - its possible that he is searching for someone whom he can vibe with, and can detect if someone's just trying to suss out if he's a fraud or not.
anyway, the 31st interview is soon (what, 7+11 days), and i know that sterling is, if a bit skeptical,at least a decent intreviewer. i just hope the audio emerges because then  can do a re-run  later, if something obviously "went wrong".


is it really true that nobody archived the googlevideo video when it was first posted??

esaruoho

Quote from: oouthere on March 12, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
To comment on the rotoverter...yes it appears to be o/u but the power cannot be extracted.  My unit was at best about 1,100 watts in and 3,600 watts out.  But, if you tried to run light bulbs with it, it consumed the 1,100 watts plus the additional load as well.  That's why it disappeared, everyone came to realize this or else everyone of us that tried would be running our house on these units.
Rich

thread, bear wtih me, i have to set this straight. i'm going to afterthis listen to the thrapp interview and start commenting, as i finally have the time.

hello rich. i refer to these posts from peterlindemann:
1)
"I applaud Hector for encouraging people to run these experiments, but the RotoVerter is an EFFICIENCY technique, not an OU technique. The Reactive Power circulating in the LC tank circuits can be converted to Real Power, usig methods discovered by Tesla, but that is another matter entirely." (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1507-roto-verter-2.html#post16707)
2) then peter refers to tesla's 6 method of conversions for getting the reactive power out, ( http://www.energeticforum.com/16933-post53.html)
3) then peter refers to hector's virtual current circulation video:
"The video of Hector is a perfect example of why I believe what I do. He is showing that the RV motor side is running on 175 WATTS of Real Power, and the generator side is producing 208 volts and 7.6 amps, or 1508 VARS of Reactive Power, measured to and from the Capacitor load on the generator. He refers to this as "circulating current" which is exactly what it is. This film shows ZERO WATTS of Real Power coming out of the generator. Reactive Power does NOT produce any Back EMF in the generator, so the motor is still operating at, essentially, no load. There is no way (shown here) to use the power from the generator to run the motor. I am not trying to be a "pain in the ass", I am trying to help you form a clear picture in your mind of what is possible and what is not." http://www.energeticforum.com/17173-post87.html
4) http://www.energeticforum.com/17204-post89.html  i try and write about stuff about the recovery circuits to peter  to see how he reacts (he did mention tesla's recovery methods)
5) peter: "Thank you for this post and the link to the "neon peak recovery circuit". THIS APPROACH HAS MERIT!!!!! Going back to what I posted about Tesla's "Method of Conversion", clipping the VOLTAGE PEAK of a resonant tank created by an AC generator feeding a Capacitive load, IS the first method he discusses. The trick is to clip the top of the voltage rise JUST AS THE CURRENT DROPS TO THE ZERO POINT. In a 60 cycle system, that gives you about a millisecond to clip. Under these circumstances, this system WOULD tap Radiant Energy (voltage without current) just as Hector apparently claims." "The discussion about "false triggering" of the SCR's is interesting. My guess would be that the "false triggering" is coming from the neon bulb more than the SCR. 50% failure rate on a commercially available semi-conductor device seems excessive."
and here's the clincher
"I now see that there is more to the RV project than just Power Factor Correcting a 3-phase motor. This recovery process will work in ANY situation where an AC generator is supplying Reactive Power to a capacitive load." http://www.energeticforum.com/17211-post90.html
this was the most remarkable about-turn  i've ever seen. this is when it started getting interesting. oouthere, i really recommend you start looking into extracting the reactive power. if you got far enough to create it, why not just extract it?
6) "My goal will be to understand what this technology is and what it's historic roots are. At this point, my understanding is that it all relates back to Tesla's brushless induction motors, and his "Method of Conversion" processes for cracking Radiant Energy out of Resonant AC tank circuits. If you have found practical ways to accomplish this with off-the-shelf technology, then it is AWESOME."  http://www.energeticforum.com/17250-post99.html
7) a huge post from ashtweth in response to the thread http://www.energeticforum.com/17269-post106.html
8) peter lindemann reacts: http://www.energeticforum.com/17278-post108.html


oouthere pretty please, look into it.
now back to the thread.