"Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?

[ramset]

The natives grow restless  Chet

[Bulbz]

Bulbz, "If there is (as you say) "no proof of an electrons existence", how does one explain HHO or Browns-Gas ?. Aren't these produced by applying a voltage, that is said to pull on positive and negative electrons ?."

I am sorry but it could also be said to pull on a positive vibration and a negative vibration which would make more sense.

one, "what holds  the vibration together ?"

Resistance

"What makes it  move  through  some  solids easier than others?"

Resisistance levels of the solids they pass thru.

"Why  does electricity  move through  copper much easier  than  through air ?"

I am not really sure if that is correct. I think it does move through air easier becuase air has a lot less resistance then copper or any other substance. I think copper just holds it together better.

"A vibration is a movement .       now you seem to be saying that all   movement  started  with a vibration ...... yet .......... you said   the movement  can not be made to  create  more energy than the energy used to move it.

If the  universe  started as a vibration.........and then  became all the motion we now have ............it seems to me that there is very little EXCEPT  over unity .

If  you think about it ....... there is a a very small part of the universe that  " educated " people  tend to see as static  and  unmoving.. We   happen to  exist in that  domain.    If   you  look either larger or  smaller    it seems everyone agrees that  everything is moving. ...............how  could  it be possible  that  there is  less motion at the exact level that "physical  life" exists ?"

I do not have all the answers but I feel that answers should be based within the realm common sense. Common sense tell us that something can not move unless something moved it. Then you have to use common sense when trying to create something from nothing. It cant be done. You can not create something from nothing. You can not get more then what you use. It may seam like it but you have to consider what is not seen that had to be added to make it look like you got more then you started with.

I didn't mean to sound like I was debunking you, I just needed an answer so that I can see the universe from your point of view. Trust me... I am very open minded. 

[one]

All, first of all, I hate getting off topic with in these threads becuase it takes to focus off the topic the thread was started for discussion.

Lets pick a thread to discuss our opinions and keep our debates on our opinions there.

This is my  last comment  here on this  subject

Nightlife

I agree with  some of what  you  believe about   electrons .....I don't believe all if  it .    I don't think it can be that simple.
I can't  get past a question ......if it is a vibration  .........what is vibrating ?

I also  don't  agree with  all of   classic  electron theory  as taught in schools ......or all that is taught about electrons in quantum  theory

AN  electron is what it is .......I can observe  what it seems to be doing ........but I have no  answers  about what it is .


gary

[nightlife]

Bulbz, if you ever read something I have wrote and you disagree, please by all means try and "debunk" my opinion because there is a very good chance that I am wrong and if no one debates it with me, I may never find out I was wrong.

one, well you have your opinions and I have mine and they make for good debates as long as we debate them with respect and open minds.

I am not here to try and debunk anyone because I am not even close to being educated enough to do so, but I feel I do have a respectable level of common sense and when I read something that goes against what I feel is sensible, I will and do post my opinion.

This thread is a prime example. I posted my opinion based on what I felt was sensible and or not sensible with in my level of common sense. Not that I should be considered right or wrong but one should at least keep an open mind to what I have to say and if anyone should still disagree, then by all means please debate it with me. I have learned a lot from debates and I have found others to do the same at times. Some debates have changed my opinion as well as my opinion has helped change others at times.

I am hard headed as most are but don't think my opinions cant be changed and all others shouldn't feel their opinions cant be changed. Our individual levels of common sense will tend to side with what we find to be sensible regardless of how we felt before.

[Cap-Z-ro]

Exactly...all sides of an issue should and must be explored...in the interest of discovery.

My opinion has changed so many times I can't remember what it once was.

Regards...