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Steven Mark`s TPU

Started by otto, December 18, 2007, 01:55:48 AM

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z_p_e

Are the fields canceled in the "same direction" diagram, or are they adding?

The field gap there tells the story. Place several conductors in parallel, and the field around the internal conductors are significantly reduced.

eldarion

My thoughts are:
Different current direction in the parallel conductors (e.g. typical application for lamp cord): repulsion
Same current direction (e.g. Litz wire): attraction

I wonder if this is the "kick", finally explained?
(Most vacuum tube filaments were not the coiled tungsten that is used in our everyday light bulbs--the filaments were comprised of many parallel filament segments to reduce hum induction to the plates--the filament was folded over itself numerous times so that it could be compacted into a small space.  The parallel portions of the filament would repel each other and "kick" a bit when the current surged at turn-on...)

Eldarion
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eldarion

Hey, I just ran across this and I thought I'd post a link to it:
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testatpu.html

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
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wattsup

@otto

Here are some ideas I have been considering by using bailing wire (BW) in the MTPU and LTPU. The only logical uses for BW is such a design is both for structure and the propagation of a mag field around the TPU. Designs can vary but in general, the use of one coil having bailing wire exiting from each end will provide a mag field. I have tested this in small scale. Now once this mag field is in place, you can wrap the collector coil or coils over this and send one or two simple audio frequencies (or other) and see it vibrate. This is just for new design considerations like how to use the rings in Mannixs design to propagate a mag field from inside the coils. This basically recreates a transformers armature that all coils need to transfer power.I would call the BW coil the control coil and this can be DC straight, pulsed or reverse pulsed. By pulsing, the mag field would be created and when off, this would leave stray static fields around the TPU.

Now if the collector was bifilar and you send frequencies into one, the other would vibrate in a mag field. My tests with Litz wire is the best for such uses. Audio frequencies of just 1 hz and 7 hz work the best and produce great wire movement.

The fact that the LTPU was producing about 850 watts of power leaves me to conclude that only 1 Litz wire would not support so much tension, thus the collector design would be in 3 or four segments in parallel, and this is evident when you look at the LPTU wiring diagram I put up in the Controls Inside thread.

I am also putting up a cut-away of the MTPU since I am convince this is the key. From day one, guys here looked at the cut-away and immediately said three stacked levels. So most of the others just shut up and went along. So....... show me were you see this. This one basic observation sent guys on a one year sprint. Do we risk this again. So there is no point to start unless one can analyze the cut-away, why he cut where he did, what is seen, etc. and the more important fact that the TPU design could still function after it was cut and after about 2 minutes of re-wiring. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU? I have done this for endless hours and days and came up with the LTPU wire diagram located in the Control Inside thread. The design below (Alt. 2a) could fit this criteria very easily because even cut, the BW mag field could still work and some quick re-wiring of the collectors is all that is required.

Anyways some food for thought.

Rosphere

Quote from: z_p_e on December 22, 2007, 09:39:34 PM
Are the fields canceled in the "same direction" diagram, or are they adding?

The field gap there tells the story. Place several conductors in parallel, and the field around the internal conductors are significantly reduced.


Would the reaction force vectors be the opposite way, instead?

EDIT: No. "...This behaviour derives from Amp?re's Law or the Biot-Savart force law which states that currents in the same direction attract while currents in the opposite direction repel..." http://www.plasmacosmology.net/tech.html