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Magnetism the myth

Started by allcanadian, December 18, 2007, 08:39:18 PM

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Mr.Entropy

Quote from: nightlife on December 19, 2007, 12:31:32 AM
Let me explain it for you then. A magnetic field is nothing more then a spinning frequency creating a vacuum that has only a resistance to its self as both a positive and a negative. Therefore, creating a positive, being the suction and a negative being the exhaust.

Your words are meaningless.

nightlife

Entropy, "Your words are meaningless."

LOL, Thank you for those kind words and please think real hard about what my words mean before you say that to me again.

allcanadian

Whoa ladies lets keep this thread polite ok :-\
Mr.Entropy you more than anyone should be able to understand what nighlife described, if not I will translate it to english for you.

QuoteLet me explain it for you then. A magnetic field is nothing more then a spinning frequency creating a vacuum that has only a resistance to its self as both a positive and a negative. Therefore, creating a positive, being the suction and a negative being the exhaust.

QuoteA magnetic field is nothing more then a spinning frequency creating a vacuum that has only a resistance to its self as both a positive and a negative
-A magnetic field could be considered opposing charges spinning around each other with a given period of oscillation (frequency), the centripital force of the spin could be considered a vacuum intrinsic to the charges.

QuoteTherefore, creating a positive, being the suction and a negative being the exhaust
- the inner positive proton in attraction to the negative electron creates as suction force as centripital force relative to the electron spinning around it, the outer electron also produces a predomenantly negative (exhaust) charge to surrounding charges.

Sounds a lot like a description of the relative forces in an atom if you ask me, you know the conerstone of physics ;D

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0ne

This thread is highly inaccurate and highly misleading...

Electricity IS MAGNETISM. Magnetism IS ELECTRICITY. They are both the same thing...

If magnetism doesn't exist, then does that mean all permanent magnets are holding electricity?? What comes first, electricity or magnets? Well since you can not make electricity without magnets, I would say, electricity is magnetism. DUH!

Magnetism is not a single force, it is TWO forces working together. When those two forces are separated and channeled through passages, they are called electricity. The only reason they seem different is because when magnetism goes from AC to DC, they have different characteristics, but in a way, there is no difference.

You can explain the exact reason why electric circuts work when you think of electricity as magnetism. Because magnetism can only work when it is channeled in a loop. Just like how electricity needs to be a closed circut loop.

Please read Ed Leedskalnins "Magnetic Current", he tells you experiments you can do to prove electricity is just magnetism.


p.s. Maxwell was a nobody. Ed Leedskalnin has physical proof of his findings... and so do the Egyptians. The Egyptians teach about magnetism.

Mr.Entropy

Quote from: allcanadian on December 19, 2007, 02:30:58 PM
Mr.Entropy you more than anyone should be able to understand what nighlife described, if not I will translate it to english for you.

I don't think so...

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-A magnetic field could be considered opposing charges spinning around each other with a given period of oscillation (frequency), the centripital force of the spin could be considered a vacuum intrinsic to the charges.

- the inner positive proton in attraction to the negative electron creates as suction force as centripital force relative to the electron spinning around it, the outer electron also produces a predomenantly negative (exhaust) charge to surrounding charges.

I certainly understand what you are saying, but to credit that meaning to nightlife is a stretch.Ã,  After all, it's not quite right, is it?Ã,  You had to get a lot of stuff wrong just to make it fit.Ã,  You know that electrons and protons don't spin around each other as peers, for example, because the atomic nucleus is very much heavier than electrons.Ã,  You also know that the positive charges don't significantly contribute the the magnetic fields in either permanent or electromagnets -- it's all about the orbits and intrinsic spin of electrons.

You give your own meaning to nightlife's words the same way people fill in details from their own life to match the vague generalities provided by a fortune teller, or the way real events are made to fit a Nostradamus quatrain by being overly generous in the interpretation.

This is what nightlife said:

QuoteLet me explain it for you then. A magnetic field is nothing more then a spinning frequency creating a vacuum that has only a resistance to its self as both a positive and a negative. Therefore, creating a positive, being the suction and a negative being the exhaust.

I'm sorry, but it offends me that someone would pull this crap out of his behind, and present it in a condescending way ("let me explain it for you then") as some kind of revelation, while dismissing ("nothing more than") the excellent work of someone like Oleg Jefimenko.

A lot of good people like Jefimenko and Tesla, as well as the classical figures, have done a whole lot of really good work in figuring out what electricity and magnetism really are.Ã,  It isn't the kind of stuff you dismiss on a whim, to supplant with mumbo-jumbo.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy