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Stan Meyer's "Non-Electrolysis" method

Started by HeairBear, December 22, 2007, 03:13:36 PM

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MeltDown

Quote from: HeairBear on July 14, 2008, 10:29:48 PM
I have abandon my tests with piezo materials due to the complexity and cost of the materials. The more I find about about the "demo cells", the more I see garage tech. Capacitor70 seems to have some good results with his work on the s1r replication and I would like to see that be successful. I will be taking a different approach to replicating Stan's demo cell with the alternator. So, I'm off to the bench again...

Again...

You are right on track and that is coming from someone that has done a year of full time research and spent tens of thousands of dollars. If you look at the center cell in Meyer's original cell, you see a clip hanging over the top. That is where the piezo device would have been sitting. Also, if the piezo was in series with the inner and outer tubes, it would in fact inhibit electron flow and voltage would all that would pass between the cell walls.

It is also possible that Meyer was using a spark gap located in the center cell to produce the ultrasonic energy. You first post regarding cavitation is more important to OU than you may know. In fact, I do not think it is possible to produce an OU device without cavitation since that is where the mass to energy conversion takes place -  electron clustering as a result of the shockwave and then electron cascade as a result of the electron clusters exploding outward and then that electron cascade is the mass to energy conversion.

In Meyer's Canada patent, he patented underwater plasma electrolysis and in the notes you cited regarding semiconductive material is the piezo version - all the same thing. This would also explain how the cell could produce electricity since two conductors will have a charge form between them.

Me thinks that Stan was using a spark gap running at 42.8KHZ in that center tube.

Want more proof? Read Stans (pretending to be his twin brother) patent application where he starts out talking about how the tubes ring like bells. ;-) Nothing will produce a sharper ping than a spark gap and a solid state version of the m1s9???  whatever circuit (any high amp DC spark gap will do) would be the perfect way to produce that. Many high power lasers use a spark gap to fire also so that may be a source for a circuit.

Keep up the good work, you are on the right track.

OscarMeyer

Could anyone explain to me what would happen if you simply broadcast, at say 5 watts, the radio frequency of 45.8 khz right next to a plastic container filled with water while at the same time applying voltage to electrodes inside the water at the same time?  Would not radio waves be able to destablize the water molecules just as sound waves can break glass when its resonance is reached?

Go easy on me.  I'm just asking :)

HeairBear

When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking

OscarMeyer

Quote from: HeairBear on January 01, 2009, 11:49:59 PM
Yes, google Kanzius...

I took your lead and googled Kanzius.  He is extracting hydogen on demand from ordinary sea water.  He is not even electrofying the water or in other words, using a conventional electrollisis method with the radio waves.   Radio waves alone are enough to liberate the hydrogen.

The only problem is, the efficiency is only around 70 percent in comparison to Faraday's equations.

Now, I will just bet that you can produce a radio signal with less electricity than the machine this guy was using.