SMOT TEST- can someone do this?

[Mr.Entropy]

Vidar,

Even though there can be a place near the entrance where the ball may feel a repulsion, the magnetic potential energy at that point and all points nearby is still less than it is far away.  There is nowhere you can place the ball where it will be ejected from the magnet's field, and no cheating to be had by placing the ball in the SMOT entrance vs. placing it without magnets.

The best you could hope to do is come out even, by placing the ball exactly at the null in the field where it feels no force.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

[psychopath]

You know, still NOBODY has ever told me WHY a SMOT doesn't work. Saying something like "oh, magnetism is conservative" or "Laws of thermodynaics" is not enough. For example, gravity wheels have been debunked many times and people actually say why it logically cannot work.

But I have never ever seen an explanation why a smot shouldn't work.

I've had scientists acually say that it doesn't work because the ball cannot drop, I think wikipedia says this as well. But it isn't true!

[Low-Q]

You know, still NOBODY has ever told me WHY a SMOT doesn't work. Saying something like "oh, magnetism is conservative" or "Laws of thermodynaics" is not enough. For example, gravity wheels have been debunked many times and people actually say why it logically cannot work.

But I have never ever seen an explanation why a smot shouldn't work.

I've had scientists acually say that it doesn't work because the ball cannot drop, I think wikipedia says this as well. But it isn't true!

The thing with gravity wheels are quite simple. I will explain - in general:

When you are placing objects/weights on a wheel that is far from the center at one side, and close to the center at the other side, the farmost objects are wider spread and the sum of matter density is there less. On the other side, where the objects/weights are closer to the center, they are denser spread, and the total matter density is greater. The momentum of right and left side of the wheel is therefor equal.

Regarding the SMOT I have an answer to that too right here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3912.0.html

Br.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

Vidar,

Even though there can be a place near the entrance where the ball may feel a repulsion, the magnetic potential energy at that point and all points nearby is still less than it is far away.  There is nowhere you can place the ball where it will be ejected from the magnet's field, and no cheating to be had by placing the ball in the SMOT entrance vs. placing it without magnets.

The best you could hope to do is come out even, by placing the ball exactly at the null in the field where it feels no force.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

If we take away loss due to Eddy currents while moving in a magnetic field, friction in form of heat and sound, we will come out even. If you drop the ball in the position in the picture, the ball will remain there, in that sticky spot. It will not move much further back, and not forward.

Then you have the exit where the counterforces are even greater.

Br.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

Stop cluttering this and other threads with your confusion. As I said learn some physics first, understand, for instance, the difference between force and energy (don't just say you understand it, you don't) and only then allow yourself to discuss these matters.

For the record: I'm finished with you Omnibus.

Vidar