Muller Dynamo

[plengo]

Not trying to be dense here Fausto.  But what is it triggering?  Not the driver circuit right?  they have Halls.

I am using the name triggering because i don't think they are really driving the rotor but more like triggering a lock of the compressed spring, the magets in balance.

But yes, trigger = driver coils.

Fausto.

[AbbaRue]

Because of all the references made to an LED staying on for a long time
I thought these videos would help answer the question:

In this first video Dr. Stiffler lights an LED using 3 coils just connected to a ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIIhgHTEoM0   

And in this 2nd video he lights up 48 LEDs using just a ground connection, no power source.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYY7TqS380&feature=related 

Romero's coils use Litz wire as well which make them ideal for a DR. Stiffler type of coil.
So I don't see anything odd about an LED staying on for an extended period of time. 
I wouldn't be the least surprised if the LED stayed on permanently.

[hartiberlin]

I agree Stefan. So I wonder what could produce all that extra energy for self running. Any suggestions anyone?

Hoppy

Hi Hoppy, this is only the induction via one recovery diode,
NOT a Fullwave bridge rectifier, so only one amplitude wave is
rectified via these 1N4007 diodes from the driver coil pairs.

This does only apply, when the battery or DC2DC voltage is off
and the rotor runs down.

When the battery voltage is on there will only be BackEMF from these driver coils.

It would be also good to know, how high the voltage spikes will be then, that will be generated via
the BackEMF and will be fed back to the battery voltage line.

[redrichie]

OK.  I looked at both vids beginning and end.  A magnet always stops on the same coil right before the driver with the periphery hall.  I would say this is lead magnet in the precession. always magnet 1.  The sticking point.  If you rotated past this point I bet it sets off a chain reaction and the rotor will spin around back to this point.  You have to generate enough voltage/current  in one rotation to be able to pulse past this point.  The trigger. 
   HARTIBERLIN I feel the BEMF is recycled back into the system.  USed or redirected like in Romeros coil shorting experiments.  Maybe to the second drivers cap and vice versa  as a load on a bifilar coil pair and once shorted to the load causes consumption to decrease because the BEMF has a place to go instead of in reverse to rotation.  I am nowhere near as versed as you guys but seems like he would use the effect he had been experimenting with for some time that showed real promise.

[Aphasiac]

I agree Stefan. So I wonder what could produce all that extra energy for self running. Any suggestions anyone?

I'm a bit out of my league here, but I do hope this is helpful...

Woopy, Lumen, NP... et al. have all suggested there's something else going on that you don't see. Romero stated several times that timing is everything.

AbbaRue said he'd like to see low freq scope shot of Rom's device.

And if you check out the attached PDF, which I took from Muller's website on the theory behind their device, they also point to timing and some kind of mating of unmeasurable forces/frequencies.
I'm posting it here so that you may have a look at it, if you haven't already, and see if it offers some hints. 

Here's an excerpt:

"What Bill Muller found out through experiments was that the field intensity of a magnet indicated
that density difference even though experimentally it was not possible to find it out. He found
another aspect, as shown earlier in the analogy; the greater the density difference the smaller
was the time in which the work had to be extracted. Magnets are just the coherent container in
which the wave-rollers as charges have been stored during its formation.
. . .
In Physics an electric charge or a photon has no mass, hence no density. Yet a magnetic field
comprising 10 E + 18 unit charges in motion at maximum velocity provides a potential to move
objects that have mass or density. Nowhere in Physics is there a connection to show how the
huge number of mass-less charges interact to move charge-less masses, with tremendous
acceleration as seen in practice. Moreover, no one has really cared to see this gross deficiency in
logic..."