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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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konehead

The circuit toranorod just put up is pretty much exactly how Bill Muller told me they switched their motor coils too...
while I was up there visiting, he even called up on phone his "tech-guy" to confirm that is way they do it for sure at that time when I asked him just to be nice to me since I really wanted to know for sure....

He said they put a switch (of some sort) at the HI of the coil and at the LO of the coil and switched coils on-off with simultatnous timing of the two switches...just like tornaorods circuit

He said advantage of this method is you catch the backemf "both ways"
so you get more power stored up in your bakcemf/recoil recovery caps...

So what is not shown in the circuit IS the backemf/recoil recovery part of it....

Bill told me they put a FWBR's AC legs "across" the HI switch, and another FWBR's AC legs across the LO swtich too, and each FWBR has its own cap...so this is how they collected the backemf too if anyone wants to know..he said they didnt swtihc it out or anything - the FWBRs filled their caps "all the time"

So Fill up some caps from DC side of the two FWBRS, and hit a load with the caps when caps are disconnected from "source"  (a "two stage" or "flip flop" output circuit like also you need to do with coil shorting circuits too)

It might be good idea to slam the cap the gencoils fill,  first with this backemf/recoil power recovered into those caps - so it would be sort of priming the cap first up in voltage so the gencoils have much easier job...or else charge 2nd battery or some sort of load and give it another power output from the recovery caps...


e2matrix

konehead,  thanks for adding your expertise to this work in progress also.  You ARE the motor master.  I'm guessing you have built some similar devices or maybe one like the original Muller?  Are you doing a build like Romerouk's version? 

nul-points

Quote from: skycollection on May 21, 2011, 01:01:44 AM
i am not an expert in electronics but i try to do the best i can...!
saludos
jorge

hi Jorge - welcome to the thread!

you have some very nice quality builds - very interesting ideas and achievements with unusual designs

i'm sure we can learn a lot from your experience - and hope your dynamotor build continues to give good results

all the best
np


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toranarod

Quote from: konehead on May 21, 2011, 01:35:27 AM
The circuit toranorod just put up is pretty much exactly how Bill Muller told me they switched their motor coils too...
while I was up there visiting, he even called up on phone his "tech-guy" to confirm that is way they do it for sure at that time when I asked him just to be nice to me since I really wanted to know for sure....

He said they put a switch (of some sort) at the HI of the coil and at the LO of the coil and switched coils on-off with simultatnous timing of the two switches...just like tornaorods circuit

He said advantage of this method is you catch the backemf "both ways"
so you get more power stored up in your bakcemf/recoil recovery caps...

So what is not shown in the circuit IS the backemf/recoil recovery part of it....

Bill told me they put a FWBR's AC legs "across" the HI switch, and another FWBR's AC legs across the LO swtich too, and each FWBR has its own cap...so this is how they collected the backemf too if anyone wants to know..he said they didnt swtihc it out or anything - the FWBRs filled their caps "all the time"

So Fill up some caps from DC side of the two FWBRS, and hit a load with the caps when caps are disconnected from "source"  (a "two stage" or "flip flop" output circuit like also you need to do with coil shorting circuits too)

It might be good idea to slam the cap the gencoils fill,  first with this backemf/recoil power recovered into those caps - so it would be sort of priming the cap first up in voltage so the gencoils have much easier job...or else charge 2nd battery or some sort of load and give it another power output from the recovery caps...
Thanks konehead
I take that as compliment. 
I simplified it for the use here on the forum and so it was compatible to Romerouk circuit.  The Idea is to completely isolate the coils when they switch there
energy back into the circuit. 

My version that I will be using looks more like this


toranarod

Todays progress
We Its time to wind the coils. Oh fun and joy. 18 coils  :o :'(

when its all assembled I will present a full specification list and we will see how close to Romerosuk I have been able to build it.
there where some parts I cloud not get. hope its close enough.