Muller Dynamo

[e2matrix]

k4zep,  sounds like a good plan.  Looks like the one I just scavenged.   I was also considering ceiling fan bearings or the whole motor if needed as a bearing since those seem to spin a long time and are obviously made to be horizontal as well as support considerable weight.  I've got a couple extra I've picked up at garage sales so most should be able to find one cheap.  Any one have any thoughts on that?

[JouleSeeker]

Go for #1
It has more promise

Thanks, Tektron -- I'll discuss this today with my colleague in this effort.  Especially after seeing Lidmotor's latest vid -- he writes:
"Uploaded by Lidmotor on May 24, 2011

This is my Muller Dynamo testing unit using two paralleled Joule Thief circuits as drivers. Instead of using the standard Joule Thief coil I simple used the paired up diver coils on the Muller. This arrangement runs on very low power only. I did this to experiment to try out a different way to run the dynamo besides the Hall sensor circuit."

I like JT circuits also, have built a lot of them, several with the coils AFTER the transistor ("reverse JT").  I found this arrangement to have higher efficiency. (See:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=853.0 )

Lidmotor uses JT circuits INSTEAD OF Hall sensors -- very clever.  And shows a very efficient M-G (motor-generator), although not OU yet. 
I hope his wife let's him add ferrite cores!    And magnets. 

[JouleSeeker]

 I would like to ask what people think of Rod Clark's M-G, video'd back in July 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbF63Gzvtd4
With a "final version" the same month:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpB3peU3Uk&feature=related

Rod uses a DC-driver motor, then the generator part looks a LOT LIKE Muller/RomeroUK.  He shows it self-running nearly 3 years ago!  where were we then?  And where the heck is this guy, Rod?  I've tried email and phone -- no luck reaching him over a couple of weeks trying. If anyone can reach him, or has a copy of his notes which one could have bought cheap (in 2008) please let me know!

I'm inclined to try Rod's approach for my first build of Muller, that is, an efficient DC motor to start with.  (Does anyone have a source for a small EFFICIENT DC motor?)

[e2matrix]

Thanks, E2m... The circuit I'm working on is more like a REVERSE -JT, and it charges a cap quickly on the output leg... but we haven't tried looping yet.  Would have to step down the output voltage from about 8V (pulsed) down to 2.5-3V input .  Same sort of issue that RomeroUK faced, and solved with his DC-DC converter.  Mine runs at 1.4 MHz, however... anyway, thanks for pushing me a bit on looping.

And I agree with you that "Romero's / Muller's device gives us a shot at making some real world useful energy. "   I would like to ask folks here, as a colleague and I are thinking of ONE replication for now -- which would be better to replicate --
1.  Romero/Muller device?
or
2.  Gabriel Device ?

Both look promising to me, and evidently operate at "real world useful" power...

I think in general motors especially pulse motors have proven to have good promise in OU.  The Gabriel device while it sounded great is still in my 'iffy' category and I'm not so sure it is a valid OU device at the moment.  I'd like to think it is but this could be measurement errors and the Gabriel device is far from being looped as it needs a lot of power to run initially.  The Romero / Muller device however has I believe been successfully looped and can be scaled up.  If one even gets it fine tuned enough with the current size you might get 30 or 40 watts out (I can hope) and if that's running continuously with a well built rotor and bearings then you are on your way to some real world useful power. 

[Tudi]

@JouleSeeker : I'm not sure a normal man can fully comprehend the significance of an OU device that converts 0 point energy to electricity ( if that is the case ). You can do anything with energy, even create matter. Now if you are "smart" or lucky enough to really do an OU device. You will probably not look for a job for years and years. The simplest example i could come up to synthetise diamonds( Which is made even in our days ). I understand this guy of not having the funds to build devices like these. But is really that hard to convince your neighbour you can fuel he's corn tractor to work for "infinity" ?

Now let me give you idiot( really idiot) examples if something goes wrong what might happen : you create so much matter that the size of the planet increases and eventually falls into the sun (lol), unbalance the magnetic field of the earth and cosmic death rays burn the lazy rednecks, create earth wide weather changes and chicks will walk around topless all day, Illuminate the whole earth just so do not need to have a flashlight in your pocket ever. Put so much electricity in earth to electrocute Osama in he's cave. Create worldwide economic crash because most of the jobs will become useless( Why work when you can create food and rest at home) . My favorite one, convert so much space to energy so that a galactic scale implosion happens xD. People out of boredom will finally initiate the singularity and robots will not beg/need food slaves (unless people get so fat and lazy they will not ever get up from playing old nintendo games and all humanity dies off after a few decades).