Muller Dynamo

[TEKTRON]

Lastly, why so convinced it's a self-runner?
The battery hasn't been *completely* removed, 
the dc/dc is still connected to the negative terminal.

The capacitor could be of question?

And the fact that there is *no* change to the operation of the motor when a load is applied is suspect as well.
There should be at least *some* change, if even brief.

See post above from Hardi

And what do you mean by"The battery hasn't been *completely* removed,"
What vid did you watch? It sure was removed!!! 

[romerouk]

Hi all,

I am here not to give you any info or directions regarding the Muller device, that is not going to be anymore but I am seeing a lot of people spending a lot of time and money thinking that just looking at my device is enough to make a 100% replication.
I hate to see people spending money on something they don't understand completely.

Most of the time is not what you see, is not in front of your eyes it is a bit more than that.

My advice to all of you is to stop working on the Muller device and just play with a simple rotor and 2 coils, one driving and one for collecting. When you will make that to speed under load or shorted then you can apply that to different even more simpler setups.

I know that most of you will say that the speed up will bring the rotor to the original speed where we don’t have the collector coil in place and there is no gain. Try and measure the speed before adding the collector coil then do the same when you shorted the coil. I think that is easy enough.

If you cannot get this effect then you will not be able to get to the next step and better stop before wasting any more time and money. My Muller device had a little bit from all of my discoveries during many years of building and testing and most of the time I failed in getting my goal but every time I have learned a bit more.

This arrangement is a complicated one and requires thousands of adjustments but it can be built in simpler ways.

Lately I have tried different toy size arrangements and I will build a total different type hopping that I am not going to upset anyone now.

I’ve got all the parts I have ordered before, thinking to get a bigger size Muller device and I will use them towards a different concept, nothing related to Muller idea.

Now again, I hope people will think many times before starting any project then decide what to do and please do not take my devices or ideas like an invitation to replicate, that is your decision, don’t blame me if you fail, we are all the same but still, not all can play football but we like to try and maybe we will learn.

Best Regards to all,
Romero

[plengo]

Hi all,

I am here not to give you any info or directions regarding the Muller device, that is not going to be anymore but I am seeing a lot of people spending a lot of time and money thinking that just looking at my device is enough to make a 100% replication.
I hate to see people spending money on something they don't understand completely.

Most of the time is not what you see, is not in front of your eyes it is a bit more than that.

My advice to all of you is to stop working on the Muller device and just play with a simple rotor and 2 coils, one driving and one for collecting. When you will make that to speed under load or shorted then you can apply that to different even more simpler setups.

I know that most of you will say that the speed up will bring the rotor to the original speed where we don’t have the collector coil in place and there is no gain. Try and measure the speed before adding the collector coil then do the same when you shorted the coil. I think that is easy enough.

If you cannot get this effect then you will not be able to get to the next step and better stop before wasting any more time and money. My Muller device had a little bit from all of my discoveries during many years of building and testing and most of the time I failed in getting my goal but every time I have learned a bit more.

This arrangement is a complicated one and requires thousands of adjustments but it can be built in simpler ways.

Lately I have tried different toy size arrangements and I will build a total different type hopping that I am not going to upset anyone now.

I’ve got all the parts I have ordered before, thinking to get a bigger size Muller device and I will use them towards a different concept, nothing related to Muller idea.

Now again, I hope people will think many times before starting any project then decide what to do and please do not take my devices or ideas like an invitation to replicate, that is your decision, don’t blame me if you fail, we are all the same but still, not all can play football but we like to try and maybe we will learn.

Best Regards to all,
Romero

That's great. So I think Thains theory is indeed part of this device. That is excellent.

Thank you Romero. Keep up the good work man.

Fausto.

[Artist_Guy]

I believe the balancing magnets are the key to the OU.
I'm in the process of acquiring the parts to build my own. 
I still need the large rotor disk cut accurately and I'm waiting on the litz wire to arrive.

I agree...tune optimally in base state, add a layer of enhancement, retune, then again...optimizing each level of functionality to the task and load. Then perhaps a resonance occurs, and much like a boat struggling through water initially, magnetically or electrically, it begins to plane.

If anyone is router/hole cutter/bandsaw tool constrained...but has a table saw:

For wood circle cutting help using a table saw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxbzrf4z_cg

Plastics can be done on table saw too, incremental blade lifting is necessary to prevent chipping (I'd use a modified version of the above, a sliding base, not drilling the saw): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kkZZN1ACs

[resonanceman]

I agree...tune optimally in base state, add a layer of enhancement, retune, then again...optimizing each level of functionality to the task and load. Then perhaps a resonance occurs, and much like a boat struggling through water initially, magnetically or electrically, it begins to plane.

If anyone is router/hole cutter/bandsaw tool constrained...but has a table saw:

For wood circle cutting help using a table saw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxbzrf4z_cg

Plastics can be done on table saw too, incremental blade lifting is necessary to prevent chipping (I'd use a modified version of the above, a sliding base, not drilling the saw): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kkZZN1ACs

Artist Guy

Thanks for the links....... I had not thought about doing it that way.
For those that do not have a tablesaw but do have a router the exact same prosess could be used as the second video if you made a table with the router mounted upside down under the table.

I would suggest for the best possible accuracy that the rotor bearing or axle be installed before cutting the outer diameter ...I would also suggest cutting the magnet holes using the actual rotor bearing or axle as the pivot point .......that will insure that all magnet holes are exactly the same distance from the center.

gary