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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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bolt

Quote from: electr0n on June 10, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
@ Bolt
Sorry to ask, but just to clarify, the tuning setup is correct in this post?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg290445#msg290445
Thanks:)
Jim

Basically yes but the series cap is only required if you have a mismatch of inductance between your coils. (you probably have if they are home made) They should be perfectly out of phase. Observe the waveforms for the current point.  Then open the short into you dump cap with a load on it. This is vital. You can NOT just stick a meter on the coils and measure mA's but the standing wave appears on the dump cap which provides JOULES. All i seen so far is people measuring volts and amps coming directly out of each coil without a dump cap of around 10,000uF or whatever Romero used. The effect is not conventional current flow that should be suppressed.  The extra capacitance  if required adjust the voltage node while the inductance of the cores are tuned to the current node. Across the "gap" where the rotor spins becomes a virtual capacitance.  The load is R so the circuit forms R L C where c is virtual but exists all the same. In order to tap R correctly you need to tune to exact current node so that the phase shift is 90 degrees from each other.

Something interesting happens at this point where the VARS is not real according to text books but its real enough when seeking OU! In particular has a major effect on magnetic amplification without actually consuming watts.  All electrical circuit OU events are via magnetic amplification not electrical flux. All the devices are the same. They all make a lot of VARS and undergo transformation event alike the TPU, Kapanadze, VTA, Muller, RV,  Don Smith, Magnacoaster etc they are magnetic amplifiers.  There are many method perhaps a dozen methods from coil banging typical COP 2 to 10  to 3 dimensional class C flux modulators typical COP 1000 Typically the energy conversion is around 10% from VARS to WATTS. Kapandze 5Kw device is actually a 50KVAR system. So for example the 1000w TPU is actually a 10KVAR device.  Around its coils it would have something like 1000v at 10 amps measurably using a clamp amp meter but 90 degrees out of phase within itself AND between the adjacent collector coils.  This produces an incredible high magnetic flux.

Anyway nuff said too many people still stuck at ground zero looking at hall circuits.


Bruce_TPU

Hello RomeroUK,
Congratulations on using diodes to allow LENZ Law to be an assistant rather then a hinderance.  Tonight I have realized that our paths have crossed in a weird kind of way.  Bravo!  I am officially impressed.

As you know, I have been working on rotating magnetic fields, in the sense of a mechanical TPU, as I know that Steven Mark used LENZ Law to accelerate the rotating magnetic fields in the TPU and I am on the road to that discovery myself, first mechanical and later Solid State with our TPU.

You, I see, have accomplished this and I know how you did it and will share with our community.  Your way is different then mine, but the results are what matters.  I am now onto an idea that will allow LENZ to produce all the power needed.  The more current drawn off of this device, the faster it will spin. 

Hello experimenters,
I am very impressed with the level of experimentation and assistance to one another.  I have wanted to see this for a long time in our community.

Now, let me share with you the secret (the main one) to Romero's Muller device.  First, as usual, people get too caught up thinking about the electric field and not thinking about the magnetic field and it's interaction with LENZ Law.

In Romero's device, where is Lenz Law?  Is it on vacation?  Is it not applicable?  Did it mysteriously cease?  Of course, none of the above.  I will now tell you where LENZ Law is....

Please note the drawing below.  I am on vacation and using a program to draw it with no text feature, so bear with the scribbles, please...

OK!  We have two coils and a magnet.  The magnet is North on one side and south on the other.  BECAUSE the coils "A" and "B" are wired together PROPERLY, with DIODES, let's walk through this for a moment....

AS the magnet passes coil "A", with NORTH pole up, in this depiction, Lenz law tells us that AFTER the EMF, there is an immediate opposing current induced.  The MAGNETIC component of this will be in ATTRACTION from Coil "A", to the North facing Magnet.  This would typically act as a break, slowing the rotor, requiring more input added to draw more output.  NOW, bear with me please, as  we continue..

AS the SAME magnet passes coil "B", with SOUTH pole down (in my drawing, anyway), Lenz law tells us that AFTER the EMF, there is an immediate opposing current induced.  The MAGNETIC component of this will be in ATTRACTION from Coil "B", to the South facing Magnet.  This would typically act as a break, slowing the rotor, requiring more input added to draw more output.  NOW, this is where the "magic" happens...

If Coil "A" is in attraction to the North pole, and Coil "B" is in attraction to the South pole, then the following is the SOLUTION>>>

Using diodes in the proper directions, you want the current INDUCED BY LENZ LAW, that is FLOWING IN COIL "A", to FLOW in Coil "B", so that there will NOW be a REPULSION (to cause acceleration!) via the lenz reactionary current from coil "A" that is now flowing in COIL "B".

Using diodes in the proper directions, you want the current INDUCED BY LENZ LAW, that is FLOWING IN COIL "B", to FLOW in Coil "A", so that there will NOW be a REPULSION (to cause acceleration!) via the lenz reactionary current from coil "B" that is now flowing in COIL "A".

Do this with all generator coils!!

And now we have a self running machine.  At a later date, I will share how to change the config and we can take KW's from same sort of idea, but far different configuration.

Cheers,

Bruce     8)
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Rawbush

Wow, very cool idea. Thanks much for sharing that Bruce, can't wait to see kw machines  ;D
Peace
rawbush

Bruce_TPU

Again, I am sorry for the scribbles, but you get the idea.

Just make sure that the current flow from Coil "A" to "B" is in the DIRECTION to cause the magnetic field to be in REPULSION from coil "B" to the South Pole of the magnet.  Make sure that the current flow from Coil "B" to "A" is in the DIRECTION to cause the magnetic field to be in REPULSION from coil "A" to the North pole of the magnet.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

supersam

@ bruce and eveybody,
it's like balancing a chair on the back of two legs on a high wire!  we have all seen it done!

all that is left, is to do it!

lol sam
































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