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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: mondrasek on July 24, 2011, 07:17:33 PM
X, can we skip the distractions?

I'm the simple BS in the room.  You have the advanced degrees.

Teach.  I know you want to.

I must disappoint you, not much to "teach".
Maybe i just post here too much (was bored today)
Most things that i talk about are sourced, it`s public knowledge, not mine.

You as well as me learn from the people here willing to share their results.
Building bigger device now to test with 2 physically distant bucking coils.
(Smith,Gray,Tesla etc.)
No effects observed with bifilar cancelling single coil on same core, maybe due to single Biasing magnet or way off cap values. I have the theory that the virtual capacitance layer needs a certain distance, thats why better 2 opposing coils.
Very hard to work with it, if you can't measure anything (due to perfect cancellation), that demands lots of patience hehe.
My tip to you, continue to experiment with RLC and bucking coils.
Good Luck

P.S.: I had the idea to start a new thread that in depth discusses standing waves and their relevance to the Romero Muller device as well as to other devices. That way this thread here would see less theory.

mondrasek

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 24, 2011, 07:56:25 PM
I must disappoint you, not much to "teach".
Maybe i just post here too much (was bored today)
Most things that i talk about are sourced, it`s public knowledge, not mine.

You as well as me learn from the people here willing to share their results.
Building bigger device now to test with 2 physically distant bucking coils.
(Smith,Gray,Tesla etc.)
No effects observed with bifilar cancelling single coil on same core, maybe due to single Biasing magnet or way off cap values.
Very hard to work with it, if you can't measure anything (due to cancellation), that demands lots of patience hehe.
My tip to you, continue to experiment with RLC and bucking coils.
Good Luck

P.S.: I had the idea to start a new thread that in depth discusses standing waves and their relevance to the Romero Muller device as well as to other devices. That way this thread here would see less theory.

Thank you for your timely (and rather well thought out) response!

I am glad you were bored today.

If you ever have a chance to make it to my neck of the woods, I'm buying.

I need some education in electrical measurement techniques, for sure!  Maybe a new forum member can help me?

M.

PS. I'm all for the idea of the new thread, old man ;).  Theory is waaaay boring for many (though I like it!).






mondrasek

So my testing has pretty much stopped.

I can no longer meter my Pin values (even with the diodes) stably (below ~40 Ohms load).

I see no perceived Pout increase as I sweep through bigger (lower R) loads (wait!  I need to graph that data).

So I am down to changing the L and/or C, right?

That change is a big one with this physical setup.

Any advice is appreciated.

M.

xenomorphlabs

New topic about Standing waves and resonance in generators here : http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11253.msg295965#msg295965

Try to make a so-called binary cap bank.
I have gotten myself a couple of bipolar caps.
This is the cheap solution, as their voltage rating
is pretty low, but should be enough to see at least any
effect despite the bucking.

Romero probably avoided caps, because he could reach
a maximal "Q" that way. Rule is that the higher the "Q", the more
VARS you can create and lowest resistance of the coil/cap is a condition for that. In his case he had only the coil DC resistance to limit it.

So i think you need to go high in frequency or double your rotor magnets
as to need having to raise the inductance which would also raise the DC resistance of the coil to reach the correct resonance frequency.

It's all a big interdependence between L C R and the resulting Q.

In simple tests i had better success creating resonance with high inductances and low capacitances.

mondrasek