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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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xenomorphlabs

M are you sure that you have connected it like this?
In the case the bottom coil is wound the same just turned around.

Getting a high voltage from a bucking configuration seems weird, but if you do you are on the right track.

mondrasek

Quote from: chalamadad on July 27, 2011, 04:47:43 PM
Gaps are different and fairly large (around 10 and 20 mm) because the cores were crashing with the rotor magnets. Wanted to be sure that this is not happening. So that must probably be it then, thanks.
But I got decent speed (2300 rpm @ 12V) with larger gap. Switched each of the driving coilsets to bottom coil only.

Until you match the output V of the top and bottom coils, whichever is strongest will overcome the other and push regular current.  It is a conventional generator running very inefficiently.

Once they are matched, no conventional current can flow, so I think reactive current must answer natures call to provide I to R when V is already high.

Quote from: chalamadad on July 27, 2011, 04:47:43 PM
I've read the document about ferroresonance. Another explanation that hints to core saturation. Has anyone experimented with grounding? Is it possible to get extra potential from earth?

Not a direct answer to any of your questions, but something I have to consider:  Zero "ground" is ONLY a reference.  It is no more "absolute" than zero degrees Fahrenheit or Celsius.  This is easily observed every AC cycle when we have + and - voltage.

With the concept of ZPE there lies the possibility (I think) that the background energy created by every expanding electromagnetic field ever created or existing today (ZPE) has a potential larger than you can initially think possible.

So, for example (only):  The ZPE from "absolute" zero energy, up to what we call "zero" or "ground" could have a potential of 10,000 Volts.

Neat, huh?

M.

mondrasek

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 27, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
M are you sure that you have connected it like this?
In the case the bottom coil is wound the same just turned around.

Getting a high voltage from a bucking configuration seems weird, but if you do you are on the right track.

Coils are wound exactly the same way with regard to direction of turns and starting location of the wire on the forms.  I have not even tried any other coil wind techniques(except the two bi-filars that are not mounted) so there is no chance I have mistakenly picked up a differnt coil.

Then the bottom coil in each pair is flipped over.  The start of the wire (inside of the wraps) of each coil is joined together.  The end of each wire (outside of the wraps) geso to the FWBR AC inputs.

So no, your diagram is not correct.

M.

mondrasek

So I am currently only testing ONE coil pair.  I have affixed backing magnets to the top AND bottom coil at a distance where it appeared I was roughly getting the most "bang for the buck", meaning most Pout increase vs. RPM decrease.

I switched the load to a small incandescent lamp.  This was due to reading the "Ferroresonance" paper poster earlier.  I realized I might not see an increase in Iout while sweeping RPM if I did not have this kind of indicator.

I just tried to take a first reading of Vout across the dump cap (before beginning to sweep RPM).

The Vout starts to climb as RPM climbs when the meter probes are reading Vout across the dump cap.

I am waiting for the system to settle down so I can investigate further.  But very interesting.  Maybe I am on the "edge" of finding something.

M.

chalamadad

Quote from: mondrasek on July 27, 2011, 05:09:21 PM
Until you match the output V of the top and bottom coils, whichever is strongest will overcome the other and push regular current.  It is a conventional generator running very inefficiently.

Once they are matched, no conventional current can flow, so I think reactive current must answer natures call to provide I to R when V is already high.

That is plausible if you think about how displacement current works.


Quote from: mondrasek on July 27, 2011, 05:09:21 PM
Not a direct answer to any of your questions, but something I have to consider:  Zero "ground" is ONLY a reference.  It is no more "absolute" than zero degrees Fahrenheit or Celsius.  This is easily observed every AC cycle when we have + and - voltage.

With the concept of ZPE there lies the possibility (I think) that the background energy created by every expanding electromagnetic field ever created or existing today (ZPE) has a potential larger than you can initially think possible.

So, for example (only):  The ZPE from "absolute" zero energy, up to what we call "zero" or "ground" could have a potential of 10,000 Volts.

Neat, huh?

M.

Quite. And obviously there is more than we can see with our eyes. But wasn't Romero saying something about grounding was important? Ferroresonance should more likely happen if some part is grounded and another is not it says.

Another thing -When I was trying out different connection options I found this: Connecting an additional cable from one AC leg to the middle of both coils resulted in a full sine current wave. Wonder what that does if current cancels out completely.