Muller Dynamo

[mondrasek]

With that inductance value, it is no "real" caduceus
I never managed to make a good one with multiple Layers, it's too tedious.
The nodes must be in one axial-oriented line.

I understand.  Sorry if I used the term "Caduceus" out of proper context. 

So what do you call a coil that starts with the middle of the wire at the inside of the coil and then wraps the two ends of the wire in opposite directions, in a haphazard way?

M.

[Rawbush]

I understand.  Sorry if I used the term "Caduceus" out of proper context. 

So what do you call a coil that starts with the middle of the wire at the inside of the coil and then wraps the two ends of the wire in opposite directions, in a haphazard way?

M.

Isn't that the mo coil...lol

[scratchrobot]

the most super coils possible are like this in my opinion:

get rid of core altogether, in its place wind an inner "pikcup/secondary" coil -
and around this inner "core"-coil, then wind the "primary/motor coil - this the coil that actualy takes a hit of juice.

all around the primary/motor wind another pikcup/secondary coil, it being as big as what distance the flux-field will extend to, when the inner primary/motor coil is energized.

then also, wind more winds BEHIND the primary/motor coil too - that is wasted energy back there doing nothing, so collect it via these pickup secondary winds backe there....the backside of coil has as strong as flux as the frontside so why waste it...

Additinally, wind the primary/motor coil BIFILAR, and energize only one half of this primary/motor bifilar coil, and have the other half become a "pickup/secondary/ coil.

so now you have captured ALL of the "ambient flux" , AROUND, BEHIND, INSIDE and WITHIN the primary coil...this will also catch the backemf recoil, too, because of the tight induction between the bifilar primary and secondary....

so put this ambeint-flux energy you gather into a capacitor, let capacitor loose to load when primar/motor coil is OFF between pulses and also you might want to thave a two stage output circuit too, whereas the capacitor is disconnected from the pickup coils it gathers energy from, when cap hits load.

Under high frequencies, the inner pikcup coil taking place of core, will work like a core does, concentrating the field Ismael tells me, in his high frequency stuff.

Also all those pickup winds will work jsut like regular generator coils with rotor of magnets passing by....so this means you can SWITCH SHORT AT PEAKS all those pickup winds too...and increase power stored into caps huge.

All this describes something I built last winter (still a bit top secret) and also describes the "basics" Ismales MEG technology and how he recycles the power slammed into his coils in his  7500VDC "repelling force" demonstrations where he knocks a 1 kilo weight coil up in air 33fett in less thatn second 16 times with single 9V battery and two small AAs also in siereis for 12V and so only around 300mAH of current available and batteris only drop from 12.4V to 11.8V after 16 hits up in air, with 12 seconds recharge time between blasts. The way he keeps the battery charged-up after each blast is with massive pickup winds collecting the ambeint flux surrounding the primary that gets the jolt of 7500VDC

Thanks for your opinion 

I'm trying different things...

[e2matrix]

Since I still haven't even wound any coils for this project yet I decided to check into what it might cost to have some 1/4 inch diameter Permalloy cores.  Some members here on the Garbriel device thread had mentioned some Permalloy suppliers.  After some fanagling I got a response from one of those suppliers.  I asked for a quote on 1/4" x 20 inches and they sent a quote for 1/4" x 30 inches.  $389.00 !  Even better yet ESPI metals who wouldn't give me a quote initially unless I was a university or a company  sent a quote when I made myself an official company .   It was for 1/4" x 20 inches.  $1109.00  - Oh and an $8.00 handling fee.  That's just sick.  Even if place #2 bought it at full retail from place #1 they'd be making over $700 profit on just one little piece of 0.25 inch diameter rod.   And all that for what is primarily nickel and iron.  Most anything else in Permalloy is just impurities.  I've got a document that says 78.5% nickel with 21.5% iron ( = 100%) will give you a permeability of 90,000 and that is essentially Permalloy (with correct heat treating).  WTF does this stuff cost that much?   Or am I just in contact with the wrong sellers?

   Guess I'll stick with ferrite cores from old computer power supplies = FREE.

[supersam]

i think they call it a supersam mo called a supersammocoil.  does it really matter maybe just a mo coil for short since mod actually built the first one. 

@at modrasec

i think your numbers are at least interesting,and like i said, this coil has got to be a pain in the ass to build.  you said that you wound it a little haphazardly, do you think it would have better performance if it was wound machine like?  interesting!

lol
sam