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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Scorch

Stator pictures.
Used mounting tape to mount the coils.
Actually a very strong method if installed correctly with the proper materials, temperatures, and clean surfaces.
Only took a few minutes to mount 9 coils.
In fact the build is coming together rapidly.
Seems like anybody who can build stuff should be able to to throw one of these together.

Getting it to run the way I plan may be another challenge altogether.

High resolution images:
http://www.rodscontracts.ws/images/projects/muller/MullerParts3.jpg
http://www.rodscontracts.ws/images/projects/muller/MullerParts4.jpg

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konehead

hi all
I made a new video of some speed up and some reduced draw when coils are inserted into stator plates..its only 3 minutes to watch:
http://youtu.be/uaaEdGPO7C8
didnt really spend time tuning the gernator coil with proper size magnet stack on it - just went for 3 magnets since that is what is on the back of the lower motor coil too....probably whatever the resisitive load is going to be in first place should be applied to coil, then distance from rotor magnets and strength of magnets behind cores adjusted...in the case of this video, its a dead-short the "load" to the coil...
Gyula - I know what you mean, I got half the voltage, so also got half the lenz-effect more or less you are saying...but if coils is shorted, and there is a speed-up from magnets behind cores. and drop in draw to motor too, then thats all good...there are many things going on at once: airgap, rpms, load to coil, strength of backing magnets, also the postioning of hte magnets too, not so much directly behind cores, but a few millimeters this way and that way make for more and more speed up when you find sweet spot.

konehead

Hi Scorch
where did yo see or hear of a closed-loop system that Carmen Muller demonstrated??
Is there a video somewhere of it? 


Scorch

I was writing about her MEMCA presentation.
It's linked at the top of the mullerpower.com page.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8fDeZC4Pc

Part of her presentation is a video showing the newer prototype running in different configurations.
Including the one configuration where the dynamo is running on just one coil while the rest is output to a light bulb at about 54:35 into the video.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=af8fDeZC4Pc#t=3276s

Not sure if that's totally "closed loop".
His explanation is something like this: 'Shutting off all but one channel then drawing off excess energy to power a 100 watt bulb'.
Do not know if any of that 100 watts of energy was used to run that one channel of the motor-generator.
Which is also demonstrated to run on as little as one volt...

RomeroUK's video, on the other hand, was a different system, with bias magnets and litz wound coils, that did appear to be a closed loop, self running, system.

The only other video I have seen, lately, apparently demonstrating a closed loop system is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoLbphJkxMM

Which I believe is a really good example of a self runner that doesn't require any sophisticated, solid state, controls or a resonant system.
And I believe it demonstrates other ways in which this desktop, Muller, Dynamo may work such as low loss switching and combinations of capacitors.

It is my intention to get my replication to operate on just one (or one pair) motor coil. Then I will see where I can go from there.
Hope to have something interesting to demonstrate some day.

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Quote from: konehead on February 19, 2012, 01:44:21 AM
Hi Scorch
where did yo see or hear of a closed-loop system that Carmen Muller demonstrated??
Is there a video somewhere of it?

crazycut06

Quote from: konehead on February 19, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
hi all
I made a new video of some speed up and some reduced draw when coils are inserted into stator plates..its only 3 minutes to watch:
http://youtu.be/uaaEdGPO7C8
didnt really spend time tuning the gernator coil with proper size magnet stack on it - just went for 3 magnets since that is what is on the back of the lower motor coil too....probably whatever the resisitive load is going to be in first place should be applied to coil, then distance from rotor magnets and strength of magnets behind cores adjusted...in the case of this video, its a dead-short the "load" to the coil...
Gyula - I know what you mean, I got half the voltage, so also got half the lenz-effect more or less you are saying...but if coils is shorted, and there is a speed-up from magnets behind cores. and drop in draw to motor too, then thats all good...there are many things going on at once: airgap, rpms, load to coil, strength of backing magnets, also the postioning of hte magnets too, not so much directly behind cores, but a few millimeters this way and that way make for more and more speed up when you find sweet spot.
Hi Konehead,
     Nice video again, i see your coil's wire is shorted on your backing magnets, maybe that's why you got shocked, i also got shocked a few times, when connecting a load (bulb) while holding the output leads, sometimes the connection gets loose, then there goes the bemf spike, sure is a wakeup call when a little bit sleepy lol... ;D