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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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konehead

Hey Avabaloney
I suppose next you will classify your insults as observations, or slander as opinion
All the points about Romeros videos being fakes have been 100% refuted  in the past posts around 100-200pg region of this thread with explanations of the "red wire" and the FWBR and such... a special thread has been made especially for those who thinks those videos are fakes, so you can blow off there.
The speed up under-load with backing-magnets behind the stator cores and coils is feature that works, as proven now by replications, so maybe you should do the experiements, get the speed up under load yourself, and see it works then come back and thank Romero for coming up with this idea and a method to make lenz-less generators.


MileHigh

Konehead:

There is a perfectly logical explanation for the speed-up under load.

When you power the motor with your battery the power gets split into waste heat from resistive losses and power that spins the rotor.  The power that spins the rotor becomes waste heat in the friction losses in the bearings and air friction.  When you add a load you just change the power split.

Hypothetical example #1:

No load:
Power consumption:  10 watts
Resistive losses:  7 watts
Rotor power:  3 watts
RPM:  600

With a load:
Power consumption:  10 watts
Resistive losses:  6 watts
Rotor power:  4 watts
RPM:  700

So, as you can see, "speeding up under load" means almost nothing.  It just means that more of the available power went into the rotor.  There is no indication of a trend towards possible over unity there.

In addition, I am pretty sure that when most experimenters observed the speed-up under load they did not check if the power consumption of the motor changed:

Hypothetical example #2:

No load:
Power consumption:  10 watts
Resistive losses:  7 watts
Rotor power:  3 watts
RPM:  600

With a load:
Power consumption:  12 watts
Resistive losses:  8 watts
Rotor power:  4 watts
RPM:  700

So just observing "speeding up under load" means nothing.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Konehead:

QuoteAll the points about Romeros videos being fakes have been 100% refuted  in the past posts around 100-200pg region of this thread with explanations of the "red wire" and the FWBR and such...

In all of Romero's videos there was never a scope display of the output of the FWBR bus.   In Romero's video where he switches the voltage output of the DC-to-DC converter we observe that the rotor is getting slower and slower as the voltage is decreased.  We know when this is happening that the output from the FWBR bus ls lowering in voltage and available power.  That means that you are providing the DC-to-DC converter with a lower voltage, therefore it has to demand higher current from the FWBR bus.

At the lowest RPM of the rotor it was obvious that the output power and voltage from the FWBR bus would never in a million years be able to power the DC-to-DC converter to keep the self-looping going.

The proof for the above statement would have been to see the scope trace of the FWBR bus as Romero lowered the output voltage from the DC-to-DC converter but that wasn't done.  Or at least have a multimeter displaying the average DC voltage on the FWBR bus but that wasn't done either.

The supply battery was covertly connected to the FWBR bus and that's why the motor ran.  That's why the output of the FWBR bus was never shown in his clips.  Nobody ever made a successful replication.

MileHigh

konehead

Mile way-too high
I dont read your posts at all so its much better this way isnt it
you can never win an argument with a fool, and you think I am foolish to believe something you dont, and I think your are foolish being the idiot you are, so thats where we stand and its not going to change.
so go over to the other thread where its OK to attack romero and call him a fake there all you want... you are wasting everyones time here and you should be banned from this thread if the moderator is active here.....
the FACT is, the discovery Romero made, of speed-up under load with magnets behind the cores/coil of the mullergen Romeor built DOES work, as I did it, took videos of it too..
SO this means what Romeor did IS true no matter what you say or think or argue.

MileHigh

Konehead:

Enough of the bashing, ok?  I am not impressed with your little freak-outs.  Be a man and just debate like a civil person.  Stop acting like an untamed shrew.  In my opinion you are deluded about Romero's Muller replication.

Also stop acting like you can just suppress other people's opinions that you don't care for.  Shame on you for acting like that.

QuoteSO this means what Romeor did IS true no matter what you say or think or argue.

Burying your head in the sand is not going to get you anywhere.

The speed-up under load means nothing because no one ever factored in the fact that some waste heat could be redirected to the rotor or the power consumption could change like I explained.  All "speed up under load" empirical observations are inconclusive.  You want to prove me wrong?  Then go ahead and do a new round of experiments were you account for possible power consumption changes and resistive loss changes.  Good luck.

MileHigh